93 Crownline 250; she 'was' dirty, but now shes clean and SPLASHED!!

[GT1000000]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Excellent news...hope the old hulk departs on time to make room for the new acquisition...

 

[tpenfield]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

No rest for the weary . . . we'll be pulling for ya

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Thanks guys oh, a question for the mod/admin folk, can I get this thread's name changed? Might as well carry on with it, rather than start a new one I figure..

It's the same haulers i have used in previous years that are picking up bigdirty, and time permitting bringing the crownline to my place same day. They are giving me a bit of a discounted rate, as I basically just gave them the business from the bayliner haul.. carma or something right?

Spent some time at the marina tonight, doing some look over/assessment, and pulling of parts (just cause she isnt home yet dont mean i cant start working on it right?) pulled the drive and exhaust risers off, found all the v birth cushions under some junk and rubble in the aft cabin :faint2: I'll post some pics when its home... don't know WHAT the p/o was thinking, but I have barker/tile board to strip off the walls and cheepo sticky on 'tile' flooring in there....

Oh, and I ended up talking to a security guard while I was there with my buddy.. guy was just curious what we were doing, you know... two guys pulling a drive off a boat at 8pm in a marina with only about 6 boats in the water at this point (there is still ice in the bay..) :lol: he knew the original owner of the boat, apparently the guy was living on it for the last bit of the summer, split up with his girlfriend, had some problems.. money being one of them.. hence how he lost his boat in the end.. Don't pay for your dock/pull out and storage? Guess what, you dont have a boat anymore. Everything is cool though, I have a reciept from the marina, they are sending the paperwork to the gov't and I paid the taxes, so I'm not worried.... about that part of things anyway :laugh: Honestly though, i dont see anything terrible yet, and yes she needs work, but it should be a great boat in the end.. I'm excited

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

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[greenbush future]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

I the redirection to this craft is a much more realistic project than the BD Bay Liner. And I'm not even a fan of the new boat style, but I sure see what you do, and I think it will turn out much better. You have a much better starting point with this boat, and it shouldn't take you to the poorhouse doing it. The engine running is huge in my book. I'll just bet the 350 would be a dog in that size of boat. Doable, but IMO underpowered, and I'm only guessing based on my boat that had one, and the size difference. She's gonna be thirsty but heck you have a nice looking, running boat. Sweat equity is gonna be what most of the effort will be, I think you're going into this with your eye's wide open. Trailer will be your biggest cost(so far), I see that boat floating this year for you!

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)

All you have to do is PM a mod, or you can change it yourself:

Ah, I see, thanks man

I the redirection to this craft is a much more realistic project than the BD Bay Liner. And I'm not even a fan of the new boat style, but I sure see what you do, and I think it will turn out much better. You have a much better starting point with this boat, and it shouldn't take you to the poorhouse doing it. The engine running is huge in my book. I'll just bet the 350 would be a dog in that size of boat. Doable, but IMO underpowered, and I'm only guessing based on my boat that had one, and the size difference. She's gonna be thirsty but heck you have a nice looking, running boat. Sweat equity is gonna be what most of the effort will be, I think you're going into this with your eye's wide open. Trailer will be your biggest cost(so far), I see that boat floating this year for you!

Yes, I to think the small block would be a bit of a slug in this boat, but it was the 'cost effective' option as I initially thought the big block was toast. The drive needs service and repair either way, and for around $500 i should have this engine tuned/fixed up and ready to rock. Plus I know it will move the boat well, and not struggle to do so. So then I will have a boat that floats, looks decent, runs well, and is ready to go mechanically for $2000. Even IF I end up putting another $1000 into it (if need be for safety or structural repairs) its still a good deal in my books. Most of the cosmetic issues and repairs will be fairly cheep, but will likely be put on the back burner until shes in the water, or until the winter. Its all useable 'as is' with a bit of cleaning and some more white duct tape... :facepalm: I'm more concerned with it being safe and seaworthy first off.

Some rough figuring tells me the 454 will use say 15-25% more fuel.. but in my exp a sb350 does have to work a bit harder in a boat this size, and generally needs to be around 3800-4200 to keep a decent cruise speed and the boat up on plane. Big blocks have the torque, and don't have to be wound out as much to keep the boat moving decently. Either way, i like to think of it like this; The thing will get up and GO when I want/need it to, even with 4 passengers and gear (beer, ect) on board :lol: and if I'm putting in $200 or $250 for fuel that day and the extra $50 is gona 'break' me, maybe i shouldn't have a 25ft cruiser right?

I may not even worry about a trailer for it yet, the boat movers cost me about $300 a season (haul and drop in, pull out and haul home for the winter) they are fully insured and are pros at their job. Also, i don't have a vehicle to tow with, never mind launching anytime you wana go out can be a pain.. this isn't exactly a 17ft tinny :laugh: I am hoping for a splash this year, possibly early June if things work out. Now i get to think about all the stuff I want/have to do all weekend...and if I'm lucky, go to work monday with the Bayliner here, come home with a Crownline in its place

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

little update on things.. The manifolds I thought i could grab turned out to be cracked too, an I could have had them for $300... but I managed to find another set... there is ANOTHER boat shop/wrecking yard quite close to me (ya, that makes 2 within a 30min drive ) and they had 2 good manifolds including risers, for $400. So while I was there with my friend, we went picking through the pile for other 'little' things... and they don't really care about the small stuff, (plastics, electrical,etc) so its kind of a free for all..

Grabbed half a dozen toggle switches, as a few are trashed on my dash, an ignition switch (mine has no key, they hot wired to fire it up for me at the marina) a nice horn, a bunch of soft top/bar clips and attachments, my buddy got a steering wheel, a bow light, a few bumpers, hull vents, and a couple other bits an pieces, oh, and a paddle :lol: It's amazing what you can pull off a boat with only a philips and flat screwdriver, and an adjustable wrench...

The pile we picked through is actually called 'death row' by the owner of the place, and all these hulks are destined to be striped and eventually crushed, and in the end turned into tiny little bits by a chipper. (they actually grind the glass hulls up and it gets used to stiffen concrete mixes from what I'm told..) Its sad to see some of these boats in such a state... but good for me as its CHEEP for all the little bits that tend to nickle and dime you when fixing old boats if you have to pay..uh, retail $... some pics from the days adventures..

 

[tpenfield]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Looks like a few good candidates for the restoration forum at that bone yard

 

[Scott Danforth]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Mind if I hop aboard to see the progress?

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Looks like a few good candidates for the restoration forum at that bone yard

Oh ya.. there are even a few in a lot better shape than you would think to be in there.. but I guess there's always a story for every one...

Mind if I hop aboard to see the progress?

No prob, welcome aboard!

Got the top off her today, made ready for her short road trip home tomorrow... Little bit of buffing/cleaning and I think this thing is gona look quite nice...

 

[redneck joe]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Guess what, you don't have a boat anymore. Everything is cool though, I have a receipt from the marina

That's how I got mine.

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

She's home! pics shortly....

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Not getting along with photobucket at the moment... here a few tho, she looks content and happy in 'the spot' :laugh:

 

[tpenfield]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

:thumb:

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

ya... :facepalm: not so much... pics coming in a few hours, after some demo. Cabin floor is toast, starboard stringer is dust/dirt... gona open it all up and see whats what... might be another project, or another 'give away' :lol:

 

[Speak]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

permission to come aboard?
Stu

 

[tpenfield]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

ya... :facepalm: not so much... pics coming in a few hours, after some demo. Cabin floor is toast, starboard stringer is dust/dirt... gona open it all up and see whats what... might be another project, or another 'give away' :lol:

Oh no, man . . . I though you gave this boat a good going through? Tough break if it is worse than you thought.

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

. . . I though you gave this boat a good going through? Tough break if it is worse than you thought.

Yup, i did, but the true extent of the rot was impossible to see until total demo of the cabin floor and aft cabin. And the OSB chip board the p/o put down before installing the cheapest of cheep laminate flooring sure didn't help maters.. likely a design/build flaw or two (imo) that were to blame from the start, but captain Home Depot didn't help maters thats for sure... fighting with photobucket again, got some terrible pics coming though, sit tight ::cold:

Oh, and ya, welcome aboard Stu, but uh... hope you have a life vest on... :lol:

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

I may be worse off now... or better, it depends how you look at things. It still IS a nice looking hull, and a running merc 454/bravo 2 drive... with a decent camper top... that I'm now into for $2000.

I decided yesterday that the laminate flooring had to go, so i pulled it up... I found OSB 'chip board' under it... good for sheds and such, if you paint and/or cover it with siding, but not really a great thing to use for the FLOOR in the cabin of a boat.. :facepalm: and to make things worse, i can only assume the p/o SAW the issues and said 'meh, i'll just cover it up' instead of having enough sense to try and remedy the problem.. can still see the sticker, so you KNOW this was put down in the last year or two...



and it got worse..



and worse..er..



but wait... some quick cuts with the trusty ryobi mini skill saw..



and as bad as it looks, it gets worse... moving into the aft now...



and it doesn't stop there..

 

[bigdirty]

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread

Re: 93 Crownline 250 "The not so dirty" resto/refit thread



center stringer is gone... on to the main port and starboard...oh... there is no more starboard stringer...




and its not there all the way forward past the head,i assume to the bow....



The bucket of filth is what is left of the aft cabin/main cabin center floor support, and starboard side stringer... and there is nothing left of the main cabin floor to speak of..




It floated like this. I figure ANYTHING I DO will be better :laugh: if i decide to fix it.. tomorrow will be more demo and determine if it is worth it or not... port side seams to be (somehow) solid and intact, and considering not much was tabbed to the hull/keel (bulkheads, center support... honestly, NOTHING was tabbed in any serious way... ) i'm not sure how much is actually structurally important to the boat.. I'll bet this thing would run just as it sits.. :lol: