9.9hp Evinrude not shifting consistently

[NicholasP]

I have a 9.9h Evinrude that is not shifting in and out of fwd / neutral / reverse consistently when I manually move the shifter. This was not an issue when I put the boat away for the winter, though at some point I was able to do something that cracked the transom mount. I had that welded back together, though I'm not sure what that has to do with this. I bring it up only because it's the only thing that has happened to this motor since I last ran it. I took some video of it as I'm sure I'm not doing the best job explaining this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4uAn0nz4Gc

Thanks
Nick

 

[boobie]

Got a model # ??

 

[flyingscott]

The motor needs to be running to shift or you need to manually turn the prop or pull the recoil while shifting. By shifting with it not running and lined up you are jamming the shifting dog into the gear. I don't see anything wrong with what it is doing. Get the motor running and shift it then if it still does it you have a problem but right now it's normal.

 

[NicholasP]

The model number is E10R4SSE (2000 yr model). I'm not sure why I need the motor to be running to shift it. Also, it won't consistently stay in neutral for me to pull start it. One pull I can do, the next pull it jams (like it's in gear) and I can't pull it.

 

[flyingscott]

Your lower unit is designed to be shifted while it is running. This is because the clutch dog has ears on it that slide into corresponding ears on the gear. If the motor is not running you can get the top of the clutch ears to hit the top of the gear ears and they won't engage. There are videos on you tube that show how a lower unit works. The recoil locking up is a safety that prevents you from starting in gear. You need to check the shift detent and make sure everything is lined up correctly or your safety cable needs to be adjusted. Or whatever happened to require welding bent the shift shaft too.

 

[NicholasP]

Yeah, I know that the recoil locking up is the safety that prevents you from starting in gear. That's why I referenced this as a shifting issue. I'll check the shift detent, safety cable and the shift shaft. Thanks.

 

[Chinewalker]

Nothing tong with your shift. As noted above, motor needs to be running. If you try to shift with motor not running, turn prop a 1/4 turn and I bet it'll shift.

 

[NicholasP]

I'm going to check out the things flyingscott mentioned; the issue here is I can pull the motor once and then I can't pull it again if it doesn't start. Something is engaging that recoil safety mechanism after I am able to successfully pull the rope. Turning the prop might fix that, but I can't really do that when it's in the water (though I could now, it' s on the trailer)

 

[racerone]

Turning the prop has nothing to do with the safety on the recoil !!-------IT is a simple fact that the motor must be running in order to engage clutch dog properly.-If motor is NOT running the propshaft must be turned !!-----Look for an ajustment on the recoil interlock.--I might look at one of 3 of these motors in the shed on what might need to be adjusted too.

 

[NicholasP]

So I'd like to check the recoil interlock, but I've looked up recoil interlock on the parts diagram and I can't seem to find it. Is it in this picture?

​https://flic.kr/p/UKcGeU

 

[hardwater fisherman]

Look at the recoil starter parts diagram as it shows the lockout. It is in the center of your picture near the top of the picture. It is connected to the shift by the silver rod.

 

[NicholasP]

Ok, so I've determined that it's called the "Starter Lockout Plunger"....what am I looking for to make sure it's operating correctly? This is new territory for me, so sorry for all the questions.

Thanks
Nick

 

[flyingscott]

You need to make sure it is working correctly. The lockout is controlled by the shifter. You need it to unlock the recoil in neutral only. In gear you need it to lock the recoil this is all synced to the shifter.

 

[NicholasP]

I checked out the lockout (the black plastic part mentioned in the picture). It's not moving between pulls. One pull successful, the next not (though if you kinda keep pulling on it unevenly it will pull all the way through). I don't see where I can adjust the starter lockout plunger. I think the shift detent is that L shaped part in the picture; that look ok as far as I can tell. Next on the list is the safety cable. I'm not sure where this is; can someone give me a clue on this?

Thanks
Nick

 

[flyingscott]

There is no cable you have a solid linkage for your recoil plunger. That was my mistake sorry. Take the lower unit off and see if it pulls more freely.

 

[NicholasP]

So I took the lower unit off and it does seem to more consistently turn over. Below is a picture of the lower unit:

https://flic.kr/p/UzoVB1

 

[flyingscott]

A bad bearing in the lower unit can cause that issue. Is there lube in the lower unit?

 

[NicholasP]

I have not changed the lower unit oil this year so far, but I assume the answer is yes. Assuming the lower unit has had it's oil changed and this is still an issue, what would the next course of action be?

 

[NicholasP]

It was hydro-locked. I pulled the plugs, pulled on the rope a bunch to clear the oil. Put it all back together, changed the oil for good measure and it fired right up when I went to start it.