'59 Lone Star Newport Restoration

Woodonglass

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Re: '59 Lone Star Newport Restoration

Laminate two 1/2 inch pieces of ext. ply together with the mat and the resin you will come out at about 1 1/4 inches.
 

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Re: '59 Lone Star Newport Restoration

looks good ill catch up to ya someday but i hope i dont have to do transom work on mine
 

Stykbowhntr

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Re: '59 Lone Star Newport Restoration

The transom is out! Finally.
I took some time away and worked on my trailer because I was so frustrated with the transom. I ended up buying a dremel and taking the heads off of 9 out of 10 rivets in the center brace and then pivoting it back. The rivets were in the stringer, not thru the hull. Slow work, but it's done. Hopefully things will progress a little faster now.

The old transom is 1-3/4" thick. If I laminate 2 pieces of 3/4" will the resin and fabric make up the 1/4". Also, do I leave the same 1/4" off all four edges?
I've never done any fiberglass work, but have seen lots of helpful tips on here.

I'm also assuming I should clean and gluvit any exposed rivets while I have the transom out.
 

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Good Job on the Transom Styk!!
Yep if you give the Transom tw coats of resin, some glass and more resin you should make up that 1/4 inch. I would use 1708 biax cloth on the transom. Easy to work with, strong as heck and will make it bulletproof.

Good luck.
 

Stykbowhntr

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Well, progress is progress no matter how little I guess. I spent a little time tonight between showers cleaning up the aft end where the transom was.

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This looks like some kind of sealant from a long time ago. Probably from when the original deck was replaced. Any thoughts on how to remove this before I slap the gluvit to the seams?

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Stykbowhntr

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No work on the boat this weekend. Unfortunately, I need to divert funds to the trailer since I will need it to get the boat off the ground by this fall. I did manage to get a motor stand put together.

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I know this isn't a trailer thread, but this is what I started with, and hopefully will have it done soon. I spent most of Saturday wire wheeling the frame and getting it coated with Permatex rust treatment. I decided to ditch the old coil springs and shock absorbers for a leaf suspension. It's nice to have a brother who used to build trailers for a living and has all of the welding and cutting equipment.

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I'm still trying to figure out how to get what appears to be old epoxy sealer off. The wire wheel didn't seem to have much affect. Are the any solvents that might work?
 

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I wouldn't go at it too aggressively because you could end up doing more harm than good. I believe most riveted aluminum boats use a piece of rubber seal under those joints and you don't want to eat through that. I'd just clean it up as best I could and Gluvit over it.
 

Stykbowhntr

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I wouldn't go at it too aggressively because you could end up doing more harm than good. I believe most riveted aluminum boats use a piece of rubber seal under those joints and you don't want to eat through that. I'd just clean it up as best I could and Gluvit over it.

Thanks for responding. I was discussing it with someone here at work, and they suggested it might be shellac or varnish because it forms a line at the bottom where the transom was.
 

Stykbowhntr

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I just purchased my 3/4" plywood and a jigsaw that will be delivered today. Hopefully I can get my transom cut out and maybe some of the deck this weekend. I still need to finish cleaning the inside and tackle the one damaged area in preparation for the gluvit.

I've seen a number of posts about not exposing the gluvit to UV. Is a tarp adequate protection until the deck is in? I wasn't planning on painting below the deck line. Unfortunately, I don't have the room to get it inside...not yet at least. Maybe a few trips to the dump will change that.
 

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I've seen a number of posts about not exposing the gluvit to UV. Is a tarp adequate protection until the deck is in? I wasn't planning on painting below the deck line.

I'm sure that will be fine. I think it's a long term exposure kinda of thing.
 

Stykbowhntr

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Got the new transom all cut out. Now I just need to bite the bullet and get the epoxy resin and fabric. By the end of this restore, I'll have a garage full of new tools (my biggest expense to date).

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Stykbowhntr

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I finally finished the trailer (except for installing 2 roller brackets). Now I can get back to the boat knowing that I having something to put it on this winter. Yesterday I picked up the materials for laminating the plywood for the transom....just have to take the plunge and hope I don't ruin it. Never done any fiberglass work before.

Here's what I ended up with for a trailer.

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Re: '59 Lone Star Newport Restoration

Nice job on the trailer styk!!!!
 

Stykbowhntr

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Nice job on the trailer styk!!!!

Thank you! My wife was actually impressed. I'm anxious to get going on the boat again. I'm actually considering doing the very forward deck piece next to get some practice with the fiberglass. I'd rather ruin a small piece of plywood rather than the two pieces I cut out for the transom. If that goes well, then I'll attempt the peanut butter recipe for the transom lamination.
 

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Are you using Polyester or Epoxy? Where are you/did you get your product? Are you using Ext. Grade Plywood, PT ply, Marine??? Pics would be good. What kind of paint did you use on the trailer? Did you spray? Roll? Brush? Details Man!!!!!!


I'm just sayin...:D
 

Stykbowhntr

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Are you using Polyester or Epoxy? Where are you/did you get your product? Are you using Ext. Grade Plywood, PT ply, Marine??? Pics would be good. What kind of paint did you use on the trailer? Did you spray? Roll? Brush? Details Man!!!!!!

1. I'm using polyester simply because of the budget, although I'm still toying with the idea of epoxy for the transom.
2. I'm in Maine and got my fiberglass supplies at a local marine supply house. Maine has a great history in boat building, although I wasn't overly impressed with their fiberglass knowledge. Can you believe they've never heard of Oops and his peanut butter? lol
3. I'm using 3/4" AC exterior grade plywood.
4. I didn't post many details on the trailer because it's not a trailer restoration thread. Didn't want to upset the boat (pun intended). I used Rustoleum primer and paint in spray cans on the trailer, although I'm not happy with the Painter's Touch line of Rustoleum. I don't think it's going to be very durable. I can always recoat with something else down the road. My main concern was getting it finished by this fall.
5. There will be more pics as I progress with the boat although winter will bring that to an abrupt halt since my landlord has half of the garage filled with his stuff.

One thing I'll throw in concerning the trailer. After taking off the paint with an angle grinder and wire wheel, I should probably have check to see if it was lead based paint. The trailer is at least out of the 60's and had more than a couple of layers of paint on it. At this point I'd rather not know. :eek: Just something for others to consider if they tackle an old trailer.
 

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Great progress, glad you decided to proceed. Tell your landlord you have a higher priority for the garage space than storing his stuff. :D
 

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Give that Rusto paint a chance to cure before your final analysis. It takes a month for final cure and hardening with some heat. You might have a better opinion then. Sounds like you got your ducks in a row and on the right track. Keep us all posted with pics. We like it that way. I hope to get started on my resto as soon as this Heat Wave in Oklahoma beaks. It has really been ROASTING us.

I'm just sayin...:D
 

Stykbowhntr

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Give that Rusto paint a chance to cure before your final analysis. It takes a month for final cure and hardening with some heat. You might have a better opinion then. Sounds like you got your ducks in a row and on the right track. Keep us all posted with pics. We like it that way. I hope to get started on my resto as soon as this Heat Wave in Oklahoma beaks. It has really been ROASTING us.

I'm still going to use Rustoleum for the boat, I'm just not sure the Painter's Touch version was the way to go, but we'll see. I just had epoxy resin and hardner donated to my cause from the owner of the company that I work for, so that makes my decision very easy. We've actually had a very warm and humid summer here in Maine as well. I don't know if you remember the summer of 1980 in Oklahoma, but it was miserable. 100+ every day and I was at Ft Sill June, July and August of that year.
 

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Oh yes, I remember it well. I just moved to Enid, Ok and started my Swimming Pool company. Built 17 pools that year in that heat. It was NOT a pleasant time. Glad I was 30 years old and NOT 60. Great News about your Resin.
 
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