floridaboater1
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Hi all i have a 1989 force outboard with no spark. What do i need to do to figure out the cause? I checked all wires and all seem to be connected correctly. Please help...
Hi all i have a 1989 force outboard with no spark. What do i need to do to figure out the cause? I checked all wires and all seem to be connected correctly. Please help...
I removed the kill circut and still no spark. How do i check the stator and trigger? My stator has two yellow wires that go the the rectifier. and then it has, one brown with blue line,one brown with black and a blue line. One brown with yellow line and one brown with black and yellow line.Sounds like my diagram doesn't exactly match your color codes. Not unusual. Anyways, there are two terminal strips. One has 8 positions, the other has 6 positions. I believe the terminal strips are located on opposite sides of the motor from each other. The ignition Kill wires are on the third terminal on the 8 position terminal strip. They are either solid White or Black/White. To disable the ignition Kill circuit, disconnect the wire that comes from the CD Module to the third position on the terminal strip.
The stator wires are connect to the 6 position terminal strip. They are attached to the last two terminals on this terminal strip.
I've attached a diagram below. Yours is the lower example, 1 CD Module and 2 coils. To view the diagram, left click on the diagram once, then position you pointer on the diagram and left click again. The pointer should change to a magnifying glass icon with a plus (+) symbol. Press and hold the control (CTRL) button down and and at the same time tap your plus (+) symbol. Each time you tap the + symbol, the diagram will get bigger so you can read the writing. Or at least that's the way it works on my computer.
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Ok the trigger came back at 48 and 51 The stator came back at 1151 and 0000 so im guessing i need a new stator....You need an OHM meter to check the stator and trigger.
Make sure you mark where the wires go or take a picture of where the wires go. Putting the wires back on the wrong terminals can create a real pain in the you know what.
To check the stator disconnect the following wires and check the resistance between the disconnected wires. Check between the brown with blue line and the brown with yellow line. You should read between 680 and 850 OHMS. Next check between the brown with black and a blue line and the brown with black and yellow line. You should read between 680 and 850 ohms.
To check the trigger disconnect the following wires and measure the resistance. Check between the White/Brown/Orange and White/Brown/Yellow. You should read 48 to 52 OHMs. Next check between the White/Brown/Green and White/Brown/Red. You should read 48 to 52 OHMs.
Hope this helps.
Yes I would suspect the stator. Once you get the flywheel off, you may be able to see some damage like melted or burnt windings. Brand new one from CDI is about $180.
I see a used stator with trigger assy for $50 and free shipping.
Force Outboard Motor Stator Timer Base 50HP | eBay
To be sure it's the stator, measure the AC voltage between the Brown/Blue wire and ground, and Brown/Yellow wire and ground while cranking the motor. You really need a DVA adapter to measure correctly, but with a normal meter, you should see somewhere in the neighborhood of 100+ volts AC.
Thank you so much for your help. My next ? is how do i pull off the flywheel? I removed the nut. Do i use a bolt puller or what tool do i need???
DO NOT!!! use a puller that is going to grab the flywheel teeth.Use the bolt holes at the top of the flywheel