2001 Chaparral 180SSE

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Thanks for the info! That's good stuff. Anyways my budget was ideally around 8-9 range, to be comfortable. This thing popped up as it sits now and I started thinking, offer 1000 on the boat and if he takes it, worst case i'll have around 5000 for a marina to do the engine and bellows job, OR I do the work myself and save thousands. Worst situation im only in the boat about 6000! Surely this thing is worth more than 6000 isn't it(in proper working sea worthy order)?

Oh yeah I'd say so depending on the time of the year. I just don't and won't do projects as I don't have time for dealing with them and the hassle. I need bonified turn key and am willing to pay more for it. With the little time I have to boat, when I want to do it, I want to go not deal with issues. I have never had anything but as-intended functionality with my sig boat and have zero patience for issues. What you have going for you is that it is in the 2000's and to me in boat terms not terribly old like I would consider a car to be ancient at that age here in MN where it will be a rusty piece of junk if it were a car. It's a bit different paradigm with boats. As many people are satisfied with the performance and power of a 4 cylinder engine, I fall into the category of needing a v6 at minimum and so in the conditional tense, I would never buy a 4 cylinder I/O bowrider if it wasn't my third or fourth boat in the fleet. Many people are satisfied with less versus more power but many are not. You start going back into the 1990's where you will notice the older hull design with the high gunnel that many boats have and that's about where I draw the line with bowriders. The hulls started getting their updates in roughly the early 2000's then in the late 2000's they all got the next generation hull that you see now on new boats. That early to mid 2000's design then was used for the better part of a decade and so as in the case of chaparral, they used the 2001 patented hull design deployed for the 2002 model year up until right around 2009.
 

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With the engine being junk, could there be any chance the outdrive is as well? Can the outdrives crack or are they typically not as risky/prone as the engine is?
 

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With the engine being junk, could there be any chance the outdrive is as well? Can the outdrives crack or are they typically not as risky/prone as the engine is?

Ayuh,.... There ain't supposed to be any water in the drive, just oil,....

But,.... ya, it's of course, Possible,...
 

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Ayuh,.... There ain't supposed to be any water in the drive, just oil,....

But,.... ya, it's of course, Possible,...

Huh? If you just park the thing with water in it and don't lower the drive, there is certainly plenty of water in the drive and impeller housing. Even if you do lower the drive to drain it there is usually some left over in there, but not enough to screw anything up.
 

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Huh? If you just park the thing with water in it and don't lower the drive, there is certainly plenty of water in the drive and impeller housing. Even if you do lower the drive to drain it there is usually some left over in there, but not enough to screw anything up.

When I arrived yesterday the drive was NOT in the lowered position, it was up, maybe not fully but it was up. Battery was dead so I'm assuming it's been in this up position since it arrived at the dealer in summer last year. So could the ourdrive be messed up too or is there not enough water in there to have messed anything up? Is there anyway to check and be sure?
 

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Honestly I'm not sure of the best way to check. It seems to me that the weakest parts in the chain would be the impeller housing and the plastic tube that connects the housing to the upper. If you pulled the lower unit and looked at those 2 things then maybe it is alright.

I'm trying to figure out why you have any interest in this boat. It sounds like a wreck and even DIY you will be lucky to get it back to working for around what you could buy a working 3.0L boat for.
 

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Honestly I'm not sure of the best way to check. It seems to me that the weakest parts in the chain would be the impeller housing and the plastic tube that connects the housing to the upper. If you pulled the lower unit and looked at those 2 things then maybe it is alright.

I'm trying to figure out why you have any interest in this boat. It sounds like a wreck and even DIY you will be lucky to get it back to working for around what you could buy a working 3.0L boat for.

Well from my point of view, assuming the owner DID agree to sell the boat for 1000, and assuming I DID pay a marina to do the work, which they said worst case around 5000; I'm 6000 into it with a boat that has a brand new engine, marina installed with warranty, in my eyes and from what I see out there this boat is WELL worth over 6000. Now, if I did the work myself I could save even more, maybe have 4000 into the boat! Regardless assuming worst case, I just don't see how this boat is worth under 8000-9000 in good proper working order.

You save a lotta money if you do things yourself. Paying a marina or a dealer $100/hour(average) to loosen and tighten nuts and bolts, something anybody can do; is outrageous for me. Assuming I do this kinda stuff everyday, I feel I would be competent enough to swap a lil 4 cylinder engine in a boat, and save myself thousands if I did.
 
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Well from my point of view, assuming the owner DID agree to sell the boat for 1000, and assuming I DID pay a marina to do the work, which they said worst case around 5000; I'm 6000 into it with a boat that has a brand new engine, marina installed with warranty, in my eyes and from what I see out there this boat is WELL worth over 6000. Now, if I did the work myself I could save even more, maybe have 4000 into the boat! Regardless assuming worst case, I just don't see how this boat is worth under 8000-9000 in good proper working order.

You save a lotta money if you do things yourself. Paying a marina or a dealer $100/hour(average) to loosen and tighten nuts and bolts, something anybody can do; is outrageous for me. Assuming I do this kinda stuff everyday, I feel I would be competent enough to swap a lil 4 cylinder engine in a boat, and save myself thousands if I did.

Well, good luck. I build enough vehicles to know that rarely does the happy path occur ;) Worst case is usually worse than you can imagine. Just make sure you have a few things figured out before you commit, like how you are going to get that motor out of there and what the complete list of parts are that you will be replacing. If the boat was abused then I wouldn't assume a long block is going to do it, count on starter, carb, alternator and everything else attached to it needing to be either rebuilt or replaced.
 

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Well from my point of view, assuming the owner DID agree to sell the boat for 1000, and assuming I DID pay a marina to do the work, which they said worst case around 5000; I'm 6000 into it with a boat that has a brand new engine, marina installed with warranty, in my eyes and from what I see out there this boat is WELL worth over 6000. Now, if I did the work myself I could save even more, maybe have 4000 into the boat! Regardless assuming worst case, I just don't see how this boat is worth under 8000-9000 in good proper working order.

You save a lotta money if you do things yourself. Paying a marina or a dealer $100/hour(average) to loosen and tighten nuts and bolts, something anybody can do; is outrageous for me. Assuming I do this kinda stuff everyday, I feel I would be competent enough to swap a lil 4 cylinder engine in a boat, and save myself thousands if I did.

Ayuh,.... If the outdrive itself is totally Junk, yer 'bout $1,500.00 from a Brand New SEI, with a 3 year warranty,..
 

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Ayuh,.... If the outdrive itself is totally Junk, yer 'bout $1,500.00 from a Brand New SEI, with a 3 year warranty,..


I saw that on their website; lucky for me the one that's on this boat is just outa it's warranty; great! also what does "ayuh" mean?
 

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I saw that on their website; lucky for me the one that's on this boat is just outa it's warranty; great! also what does "ayuh" mean?

Ayuh,... Google it,...

iboats sells those drives,...
 

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well, I'm back into this boat again to maybe offer around 1000 for the thing as is. one thing we found out is the solenoid for the up on the trim is bad, trim doesn't go up..they claim it's about a $35 part. Are these a big deal or easy fix?
 

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BOUGHT THE BOAT!! got it for a steal, and brought it home to mess with it. everything is great on it. only fix's are the trailer running lights, bow/stern lights, and radio; everything else was great. shockingly after two years or so (however long it was sitting) it starts right up with minimal, if any, throttle pumping. it idles, goes in and out of gear, flows water out of exhaust ports, etc. all as it should. also has barely any water leaking out of the crack. I'm gonna have an outdrive inspection and bellows job done just because, but am considering leaving the engine alone.

my post is for concern about welding the blocks; I've heard of people doing it but how is it? I have a guy from work who can weld cast, and is comfortable with it. but just want your guys opinion on it all. the crack is about 7" or so I would guess, maybe 6". easily accessibly on the left side of engine(opposite driver). I figure I have nothing to loose as it's just as much junk if the weld fails, as it is junk now with a cracked block. welding it will only help me get by without spending 3500 for a new engine installed. sure it will hurt resale value I assume, but I figure why not give it a shot! any input from you guys or past experience with this?
 

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I'm gonna have a guy from work tig it. He's a great welder and has experience welding with a cast rod. I feel he'll be the best bet to attempt it. Just curious if anybody has welded their cracked blocks before and how it worked out?
 

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Are you wanting him to weld it while it is still in the boat? Most just grind out and clean up the crack, drill small hole at both ends then JBWeld it or epoxy it, can do all that safely in the boat.
 
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Are you wanting him to weld it while it is still in the boat? Most just grind out and clean up the crack, drill small hole at both ends then JBWeld it or epoxy it, can do all that safely in the boat.

Ya I figured I'd have him weld it in the boat, easily accessible where the crack location is at, plus no sense to go through hassle of pulling the engine. I planned on grinding it out, but what's the purpose of drilling a small hole on both ends; I'm not familiar with that.
 

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Does your welder friend know it is in the boat, like a foot away from a gas tank, and carb fuel bowl? Not to mention vinyl, foam, oil, etc. Also the electrical energy can fry alternators and other components in the path if electrode placement is not well thought out, hope there is a plan for all that.
 
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