'1990 Bayliner Capri 2050 BR - Deck, stringers, transom, custom interior'

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Welcome, and feel free to ask questions and yell at me if I slack off on posting new photos and the occasional video. This thread will cover a lot of ground, and I'll try to keep as organized as possible.

Last fall I spent a whopping 1 day searching the net for my first bowrider and fell in love with this beauty right off the bat, er.. net!

At first I thought, "Maybe some new carpet, some seat covers and an engine tune up". Then it hit me, slowly, I had just entered phase one of..

The 10 steps of restoration denial:

1. That soft spot just needs a patch
2. The foam will dry out
3. It's just the deck, the stringers are fine
4. I don't have to pull the engine; I can work around it
5. The transom feels solid
6. I won't have to remove the cap, plenty of room
7. I will just buy a couple of gallons of resin
8. $1,000 is plenty for a job like this
9. I should be on the water by the end of the month
10. I need a beer! Nothing is going as planned!

Project status:

Deck/foam removal - Complete
Engine removal - Complete
Stringer removal - Complete
Transom gutting - Complete
Hull grinding - Complete
Hull sanding - Complete
Prepare transom for NidaBond - Cancelled (Built plywood transom instead)
Cut out transom - Complete
Build new transom boards - Complete
Glass in new transom - Complete
Measure and cut stringers - Complete
Measure and cut deck - Complete
Glass stringer wood - Complete
Glass deck wood - Complete
Install stringers - Complete
Install foam - Cancelled (Decided against foam)
Install deck - Complete
Pour NidaBond, re-cut transom hole - Cancelled
Flip hull - Cancelled (Lifted hull for paint instead of flipping)
Prepare hull for paint - In Progress
Prepare cap for paint - In Progress
Paint hull
Paint cap
Install engine and outdrive
Mount controls and steering
Rewire electrics
Measure and cut above deck framing
Glass above deck framing
Install above deck framing
Install captains chairs
Prepare deck for paint
Paint deck
Water trial
Measure and cut upholstery framing
Glass upholstery framing
Make upholstery cushions
Build new dashboard
(to be continued..)

Video goodies:

Intro video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxgipQHqT0&feature=channel_page

Recap video of the tear down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJYHUkS83XY

How To: Making a template for a new deck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq1GA406s9c

How To: Patching a hole in a hull: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzOMlMzrLoE

Thread Summary:

In the coming months I'll be ripping her guts out, rebuilding her deck, stringers, consoles, upholstery and paint. Yes, she'll have way more into her than she'll ever be worth, but who cares, I don't plan on selling her anyhow! I'm in it for the long haul. Of course this isn't going to be easy, I had already made my first goofball mistake before winter even set in.. I didn't winterize the engine before the first freeze! The thermostat housing split in two places and required replacing. Today (hooray for warm temps again!) I managed to fire her up for the first time since that mishap.

In January I took some time during the warmer days to tear the Mercruiser 3.0 down to her bits, clean and paint everything and reassemble for the spring. Rebuilding the carb was done inside to avoid the chilly January temps. This, of course, made my wife very pleased, as the house was a pleasant gas smell for days. Come to learn, even after the indoor rebuild, there was still a flooding issue, which I misdiagnosed as a timing issue due to my doing everything at once and having no idea what I messed up on the reassembly. After a second rebuild, the old 3 liter fired up 1st try and is sounding better than she did when I put her away!

For those who may happen upon this posting looking for lessons from an expert, you're more likely to find a novice clambering his way through the dark tunnel of restoration, but you will likely take away more than a few lessons I will be learning the hard way.

Read on!
 
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sounded pretty good.
 

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Here are the initial 'before' photos of the Bayliner Capri. I decided to keep a more detailed photo log on Flickr in order to keep this thread reasonably informative and not so cluttered. You can see all of the photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36200138@N02/sets/72157615074552046/detail/

EDIT: I have since switched to Google's Picasa for photo sharing. Flickr was just too buggy and I kept losing descriptions and uploads. Picasa link: http://picasaweb.google.com/Lowkee.Album/Bayliner2050Rebuild02#


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Missing gelcoat on the tip of the bow

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The rub rail insert is coming apart

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Right side of outdrive. Needs paint, otherwise in good shape

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Sealant around gimbal housing, which likely means it leaks and needs a new gasket

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Port side scratches, none look too deep

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Wires hanging from the dash.​
 
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Torn vinyl on dog house and surrounding seats

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Lounge seats are toast. They could be rebuilt, but I don't like them anyhow. Replacing them with captain's chairs

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Massive scratching on the bottom, some deep gouges

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Missing gelcoat, but no fiberglass damage

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Throttle assembly with jimmy rigged trim switch

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3.0L Mercruiser Alpha 1 Gen 1. Runs perfectly now that I went though it piece by piece. Wanted to make sure I had a working powerplant before wasting time on the hull

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More cracked vinyl and soft bow seats. Only carpeting on top?

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Old faded gelcoat. Would almost be worth saving if it didn't have so many dings and gouges.

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Not one piece of vinyl is complete. This has a beach towel stapled where vinyl should be

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Three (!!!) layers of plywood for the deck. A full 1 3/4 inches of wood. An elephant could ride in this boat! ..and it probably tows like an elephant, too.​
 

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Old jump seat frame is rotted right through. Isn't even connected anymore

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Dashboard with only 3 working guages


I'll be digging in this week, removing the top, consoles and built-in seating.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to remove the console bases and bow seating without destroying them, as I'll need them to create the replacements? I have a big 7" angle grinder and a cutting disc for it, so I'm guessing cutting them both at their bases is the way to go. Let me know if there is a better way.
 

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I'll be digging in this week, removing the top, consoles and built-in seating.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to remove the console bases and bow seating without destroying them, as I'll need them to create the replacements? I have a big 7" angle grinder and a cutting disc for it, so I'm guessing cutting them both at their bases is the way to go. Let me know if there is a better way.

Those are the right tools, and the accepted method I've seen used many times on this forurm.

That Bayliner has such nice lines, with a complete makeover, it will be stunning.
 

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Started removing the floor today. Wow, what a chore! I was definitely expecting things to go faster and easier than they did. BUT, I did make some headway.

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Now THIS is a man's saws-all! It actually works quite well, although my leg was in danger a few times. Having it on a variable speed grinder worked well, you can dial it down for those careful cuts

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My trusty hand held pick axe, bought specifically to shred foam!

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Carpeting removed. First glance at the exposed floor

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Carpet gone, ready for the saw and crowbar

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Other bow seat base
 

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Missing seat base in bow

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The keel is so worn you can see light through it! Another rub or two and this would have been underwater

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More exposed rot

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Exposed rot. Didn't even have to dig for that slice of heaven

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First of the floor removal. One seat mount down, one to go.
 

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The scrap heap - Rotten wood everywhere!

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Working so hard, my hands and head were steaming!

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This was the center decking.. WTF is it? It feels pretty heavy and looks like styrofoam beads inside hard plastic. Really weird stuff!

Ooh my knees and back are sore!

Till next time! (likely tomorrow)
 

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Oh Crap! That is one nasty tool!!! Believe me, the makers of the grinder and the makers of the circular saw blade never intended for them to be joined like that!!! The Terminator would be proud of you. :D

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A bit scary, but I bet you can do some serious destruction with it. Just watch the kick backs!

Hmmmm. I wonder how well it would work with a 12" blade???
 

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That second to last photo looks like perilite (potting soil) ? quite a project you have there, from a distance the boat looks pretty cool.

Oh i just thought of it, the previouse may have been a fisherman and was growing worms up in that section with the potting soil LOL.
 

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Doing some great work brutha!

The lines on the 1990 Bayliner are some of the best I've ever seen (just my opinion, lotta beautiful boats out there)... Like almost timeless...

It's gonna be beautiful!

On the iboat Bayliner forum, some dude restored the same boat as yours. I'll see if I can find the thread. But it was friggin unreal when it was finished...

I love the bilge vent intakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Thanks for the good words, guys. This is much tougher than I imagined (and more expensive). When I read through the other restore projects, it seems as though they went so quickly and here I am collapsed after a few hours a day. At least I have a reason to buy more tools! (not that I ever need one, just ask my wife ;))

After a lazy few days off, I have gotten back to work with renewed energy and more of a plan than my seat-of-the-pants ideas of old. Now some pics, since nobody reads these threads for the long rants..

EDIT: I have received some questions as to how to remove the cap, so I'll share here.

The cap is only held on by rivets and some caulking. I used a drill bit about 1/8" bigger than the center hole of the rivet and drill right through the rivet. If all goes well, doing so should leave the head of the rivet on your drill bit and the rest you can just knock into the boat. Do this for all rivets (I had about 80-90 around my 20'). Once that finished you can lift the cap. Be sure you have removed any inside screws or bolts, as I had 4 bolts holding the cap on near my transom. The silicone caulking doesn't grab too much, so you can just give it a heave ad it will break loose. If your back isn't what it used to be, you may need some friends, as it weighed about 400lbs on my boat, so I was limited to lifting one end at a time while my wife tied it to the rafters. All in all, not a tough job and a nice break from gutting foam and rotten wood.

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The cap is lifted! My wife and I have a helper shortage, so rigging up a rafter support system will have to do.

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Once the engine gets lifted, I have to re-seat the top in order to remove the trailer and build a support structure to ensure the hull doesn't widen and mess up my deck measurements
EDIT: You'll notice in the far left of the photo, my lab standing up to finally see inside the boat his dad has been held up in for days.

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This will be removed tomorrow, hopefully..

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Random pic. This is the end of the ridge beam from a now-torn-down screen porch we were having built. It turned out the builder lied and had no builder's license and at the 90% completed mark the roof began to collapse! This photo is pretty representative of his entire job. Mental note, never hire anyone without getting a copy of the actual license!

We ended up tearing down (had to discard the materials :() the collapsing screen porch and building it ourselves. We are at the roofing stage, now. One of those projects that falls into your lap and you just have to learn as you go and make time for it.

This picture is here because I reused the old ridge beam (after removing some 100+ nails, not kidding) for the engine hoist supports (photos tomorrow!)
 
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good job man.I love bayliners they get a lot of bad rap but who cares these babys are cool. keep it up and Ill race ya when you get done.I doing a 88 1950 cuddy.Oh Ill need a head start and a push.
 

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Didn't get as much gutting done as I had hoped today, but I did get the engine removed and began removing the very much rusted bolts from the transom assembly. So far I've been lucky and have gotten every bolt to loosen, but I'm not done yet.

My homemade gantry worked out really well. At the last minute I added some extra height to it (note the extension on the lower part), which was a very good thing, since the engine barely cleared the hull even with the bow raised way up high. All in all, a pretty successful day.

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My homemade gantry. Made out of 6x6's. Worked very well and gave me a reason to reuse those timbers.

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Another shot of the gantry and engine hoist assembly

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Room enough for a 454 EFI Supercharged? Nah!

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The foreman telling me I'm spending too much time on the boat and I need to pet her more.

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Out and safe. I'll get around to giving it a proper paint job in the coming month
 

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And here is a bit I found in the bilge. Any Mercruiser experts recognize this little gem, because I have no idea what it is? It makes me wonder if this is the reason the PO said the transom leaks.

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So does it look familiar to anyone?

I'll be likely taking a couple of days off to do more roofing work on the screen porch, since my helper (the wife) will be home to hand me OSB sheets.
 

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Lowkee, metal fabricator extraordinairre!

When looking in the manual for the recommended mount points for the hoist, I noticed the eyelet I was supposed to hook to was missing! This, of course, was the perfect opportunity to use my brand new MIG welder! Now, I don't have much for metal stock at my house, so I hade to sawzall a piece of an office chair bracket, drill a hole in it, then weld on a piece of one of those dreadful rod iron plant hangers people put in their lawns. Once I had married the two and bolted it on, the engine lifted out without a hitch (per se, hehe)

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Way to go MacGyver!

Gotta love melting metal with fire!

You might want to put some gussets on your gantry; a little triangulation goes a long way.

The MIG is one tool I don't have, yet long for....."How many tools do you need exactly?" (wife)

Keep one foot in front in front of the other; no matter how dark the path you WILL get there.

Cheers
 

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An update on the mystery part I found in the bilge.

Looks like the lower right hand corner of the transom plate to me.
see illustration
http://www.sterndrive.info/sterndriveparts/transom_plate_shift_cable.html

Sure enough, that is the part's home. That is a pretty severe issue which I'm hoping can be remedied by a talented aluminum welder down the road. If not, well, I'm going to hope for option #1 for now. Still plenty of stuff to keep me distracted in the mean time.
 
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