1988 johnson v6 vro info

[kcassells]

HI Guys,
I just purchased this outboard based on a lot of good feedback from you all. Thank you.
Now I am looking for any and all info you may be able to provide me on this specific year and model. Specs, reviews, comments, deleting oil pump.
When I google this info alot of "manuals" for sale do not specifically mention the VRO aspect.
Any help/direction is appreciated as usual!
The motor is going into my 1983 Sportcraft 222 cuddy total rehab.



KC

 

[cr2k]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

You will need to get a fuel pump and remove the vro. Mix your fuel. Takes about an hour to do if you have all the parts. Usually use a fuel pump that you mount to a bracket. May or may not have to drill and tap crankcase for a vacuum fitting. Reroute some fuel lines.

 

[Greg_E]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Get a factory manual for the year and model engine you have. You will be glad you did. Try here outboardbooks.com or Ebay. The aftermarket manuals are not specific to your model, and sometime have incorrect information.

There are plenty of threads on here dealing with converting the VRO system to premix. Do a search. You should find the info you need.

You didn't say if it is a 1988 V6 150/175 or 200/225. They are different motors and different manuals.

You don't need to drill any holes in the block. It's already there.

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Thanks Guys,
Yup it is a 225. I have been looking at the other threads in regards to converting to premix. All good stuff. I'll go to manual website and see what good readings they have.

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

If you are converting to regular fuel pumps you will need 2 of them for this size of motor.
Get an OEM manual.

 

[carmariner]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

If you are converting to regular fuel pumps you will need 2 of them for this size of motor.
Get an OEM manual.

Why two fuel pumps????? Maybe I'm missing something, I have a 91 225 and it only has one fuel pump.....

 

[Greg_E]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Why two fuel pumps????? Maybe I'm missing something, I have a 91 225 and it only has one fuel pump.....

They are talking about older non VRO fuel pumps that can be adapted for use on the engines with VRO. They have a lower flow rate than the VRO pump, so on the larger engines you need two. If the VRO pump is working, you can just disable the oil side and premix. No need to change out the fuel pump.

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Thanks for the feedback. I do believe one pump is recommended with vacuam. Just pulled the darn motor out of my work van with the help of another buddy. She is one ole' pretty and heavy girl.

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Snowing here today but I'll shoot a pic later. Need some heat to I can do all my glass work.

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

They are talking about older non VRO fuel pumps that can be adapted for use on the engines with VRO. They have a lower flow rate than the VRO pump, so on the larger engines you need two. If the VRO pump is working, you can just disable the oil side and premix. No need to change out the fuel pump.

Correct. 2 regular pumps from before the VRO era. You can disable the oil side and just run the fuel side but you will still have an old pump.

 

[j_k_bisson]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Check out my re-ring/rebuild for some overview of this motor. I believe it has the same ignition system as my 87. Doe it have individual power packs or one big on on the top back (stern) area pf the block?

A couple of things to keep an eye out for on these motors, They eat stators and retifiers/regulators about every 5-10 years. The stators you can tell if they are going by looking for black tar like substance dripping up under the flywheel. The regulator/retifier wil tell you if it needs changing if your tach does not work.

You will want to fix either one of these items as they WILL destroy the other item listed and possibly cause alot more damage to other electronic parts. Just a helpful reminder.

Well come to the club of people who love thier motors and have alot let money due to the gage costs they inflict on us! lol

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Jk,
Just got er out off my van and wil be using a motor hoist on her this weekend to lift her up. I will surely get back to you after I get a good look in a vertical position. I will also look at your re-ring rebuild. Lots to do so little time. Weather is just starting to break here so I am also wrapped up in a new transom, flor, electrical...... Ya hoo!
KC

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Here are some pics. Still having a hard time identify exactly what motor/id is to get the correct manuals.
The motor is;
JOHNSON VRO V6 225, outboard, 1988, 25" shaft.
I do believe this was the engine that was sold on my " SportCraft 222 offshore, 1993." at the time.

I am having trouble finding all the numbers to match up to the code sheets.
Here is what I have to date;
Off mounting bracket......................................E328718 F
SPARKPLUG COVER..................................331490-2
OTHER AREAS;.............................................185655
B 27

331885
331982

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

More pics;
I have the code sheets but these numbers don't add up.

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Sure could use some more definition trying to find correct id for motor. Boy, out in the rain today with flashlight just to see if a shadow would show up for id.
Yo boys put the metal to the pedal and please dig me out some feedback or ideas.
TX
KC

 

[Greg_E]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Look at the back of the engine. Near the top of the block you will see a round plug in the block about the size of a quarter. Unless it has been changed or a different power head installed, it should have the model number stamped into it. There should also be a metallic label on the port side engine bracket up where it curves over the transom with that info, but that may be unreadable or missing due to the age of the engine.

You can go to shop2evinrude.com to verify the model number and year. My 1988 Evinrudes are models E225TXCCE and E225CXCCE You are looking foe something similar, but starting with a J.

If it is in fact a 1988 big bore looper, you want the OE Johnson/ Evinrude "CC" Loop V Service Manual P/N 507664
http://www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-manuals.php?Year=1988&HP=225&Model=225CXCCE or try Ebay. I found mine there. There are several used on sale for less money, just make sure they have all the foldout hose routing and wiring diagrams still in it.

The 1988 was the first year that the two separate power packs were combined into single power pack often referred to as the butterfly pack due to its shape

 

[kcassells]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

Thanks Greg, I'll take a look there.

 

[j_k_bisson]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

One of the easiest ways to tell these motors is by the electrical system. It's seams that Evinrude was changing them every couple of years in the range of history.

A clear pic of the top of the motor looking down on the flywheel at the back where the cylinders are will help ID the year range to with in 2-3 years. Also there are frost plugs under the block from bottom but I don't think you will be disassembling this soon.

You may have to remove the plastic cover to show the power pack configuration. We are looking for what the wire going to the coils are coming from.

 

[Greg_E]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

You don't need to remove anything to determine the type of ignition system. The 1886 and 1987 have two separate rectangular power packs mounted on the left and right top rear of the block. The 1988 and newer have the single butterfly pack mounted top middle. Look up the power packs for the different years, and you will see exactly what your looking for.

BTW, the used manuals on Ebay are listed as 1987 manuals. On the front cover of the manual it says "Outboard Marine Corporation 1987 All Rights Reserved" The sellers assumed it was for 1987 engines. It is not. It was probably printed in 1987 so it was available to dealers when the engines came out. You have to go by the part number.
For 1988 you want 507644.

For 1987 you want 507619.

For 1986 you want 507547.

 

[j_k_bisson]

Re: 1988 johnson v6 vro info

I have attached what a 1987 power packs should look like. Please compare what they look like and what yours does.




Notice the two independant power packs. to the left. The 1988 has only on power pack that does the function as the two separate did.

Now note, this motor in the pic is mine. It is a 1991 big bore block with a 1987 small bore ignition system and carbs. I found the magic frost plug that told me what block I had up under the bottom of the block. So until you find the magic frost plug you will not truely know what you have.