1980 e5rcss 4.5 rude recoil help

brunette63

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Just replaced carb, pump and rope, the recoil spring before didn't really recoil right, now that's its back in does same thing and I know its in right, when I took it out its like 8ft long, is that right? It only rolls like 8 inches of rope in. Plz help
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1980 e5rcss 4.5 rude recoil help

Depending on which type you have.........

(Manual Starter Cord Installation)
(This pertains to the vertical type of Manual Starters such as the 9.5hp and later 4.5/6/8hp models etc)
(J. Reeves)

1 - Have a pair of vice grips handy set so that they will grab the top of the starter spindle tightly but will not damage it.

2 - Using a large screwdriver inserted into the top of the starter spindle, wind the starter in a counter clockwise direction 12 to 14 turns, stopping so that the cord locking slot is facing the away from the engine.

3 - Lock the spindle in that position with the vice grips, letting the vice grips lay against the flywheel.

4 - Insert the cord as needed and make sure it is retained properly at that slot.

5 - Feed the cord out the starter cord hole at the front of the engine and attach the handle.

6 - Grip the cord tightly so that the spindle cannot spin around rapidly, then release the vice grips.

7 - Allow the cord to be withdrawn slowly around the spindle.

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(Manual Starter Cord/Spring Installation)
(This pertains to the side mount type manual starters such as the 4hp models)
(J. Reeves)

Have the rope/cord wound around the starter pulley in the proper direction and tuck the end of the cord under itself to lock it in place.

Assemble the manual starter to the engine, having the inner sping loop inserted over the related pin, BUT leave the starter spring UNWOUND and simply hanging thru the slot of the manual starter housing with the long length of the spring out side of the manual starter.

Now, using your ingenuity, rig some kind of device to force that plastic gear up into the flywheel teeth, jamming it so that it will stay engaged in those teeth.

It is now simply a matter of putting a wrench on the flywheel nut and turning it in the proper direction to pull that spring into the manual starter housing which will properly rewind it. After the spring has been pulled in completely, continue to crank it further until sufficent pressure is upon the spring. Usually three turns of the flywheel is enough.

Now, keep a firm grip on that small plastic gear so that the starter does not rewind. Using a sharp pointed scribe, pick the loose end of the starter cord free and run it out its proper exit, then attach the handle to it. That should do it.
 

raczekp1

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Re: 1980 e5rcss 4.5 rude recoil help

i had the same problem with this side starter,
my advice s to change this 2 sleaves, they are is inside and gear wheel can be worn
 

nwcove

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Re: 1980 e5rcss 4.5 rude recoil help

you have the side mounted recoil as compared to the vertical spindle?? if so, you need to wrap the correct length of rope onto the assembly, then use a rubber band or tape to hold it in there. then wind the spring up. i can email you more detailed instructions, or you can easily find them on the web. but be patient with it, and wear safety glasses! that spring can be nasty, and im sure you will invent a few new curse words during the process!! lol
 
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