1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

[4.0l sahara]

Okay so I'm looking at two styles of older motors. I like the looks of the older 7.5hp evinrude but have also found some nice 9.5hp johnsons from the 1960's. I'm only looking at motors never used in salt water. The last old motor I bought was used in salt water and It was a mistake to buy it. So taking hp out of the mix what are the pros and cons of each motor?


Choice #1

choice #2

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Whatever you do, don't get the 9.5. It has some parts in it that commonly go bad that are unavailable. The 7.5 you're holding is beautiful, and has NO bad aspects. It is an AWESOME motor that is very reliable with new coils (about $40) and runs incredibly smooth and should crank really easily. It is a 7.5, though, and doesn't have much power. Personally, if I usually ran a fair distance to my favorite fishing hole I'd want a 10hp. But not that 9.5! It was a nice motor when new but really a pain to work on and there's a gasket I believe, in the mid-section that goes out and you pretty much WON"T be able to find a replacement. Once again, the 7.5 is nice on a light, 14ft aluminum boat, but slow. I don't like it on a 12 ft. boat.
Just my opinion,
JBJ

 

[JB]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

I agree with JBJ.

The 9.5 was not one of OMC's proudest achievements, while the 7.5 was.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

yes the 7.5 is much easier to work on. all the comsumables are still available

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

So what do you guys think Is a decent johnson or evinrude 9 to 10hp older motor? That I could find one for a decent price.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

BOY do I like these questions. HA HA! I LOVE the 10 hp's from '54 to '57 in johnson or evinrude (the same). I don't like the 10's from '58 to the 60's, as their lower unit was "demoted" to a 5.5hp style l.u. If you get a '54 to '57 10hp in decent shape you will love it like a puppy! I think 250 to 300 for a good one is a great price but some folks don't agree with me. I personally have a '53, '55, and '56 10hp johnson and wouldn't part with 'em for anything. They run about 21mph on a nice light aluminum boat, 12 or 14 ft. long. The 9.9 johsnon/evinrudes from the 70's and 80's are all good motors, but more expensive to work on as far as parts go.
JBJ

 

[DJ]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

BOY do I like these questions. HA HA! I LOVE the 10 hp's from '54 to '57 in johnson or evinrude (the same). I don't like the 10's from '58 to the 60's, as their lower unit was "demoted" to a 5.5hp style l.u. If you get a '54 to '57 10hp in decent shape you will love it like a puppy! I think 250 to 300 for a good one is a great price but some folks don't agree with me. I personally have a '53, '55, and '56 10hp johnson and wouldn't part with 'em for anything. They run about 21mph on a nice light aluminum boat, 12 or 14 ft. long. The 9.9 johsnon/evinrudes from the 70's and 80's are all good motors, but more expensive to work on as far as parts go.
JBJ

Ditto!

I also have a '57' 7.5. It runs like a champ and is a strong 7.5. It'll go another 50 years with good care.

That one in the picture is a beaut.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

I just had to say, if you want a real "cadillac" of an outboard motor, get a, '57, or '58 johnson or evinrude 18hp. They don't weigh but about 8 ot 10 lbs. more than a 10hp and are really powerful if you have a couple of friends with you. The '55 and '56 15's are awesome too. I just thought I'd mention that if you found one of those, too, for a reasonable price. The 60's 18's are the same basically, but in my opinion aren't in the ballpark as far as looks go. Just as good and pretty much the same from '57 to late 60's. And if that 7.5 in your pic is for sale for a decent price and stays in gear wide open throttle I'd get it. It's a nice looking motor and is really smooth running. Keep in mind though, I want all of 'em. They're like lay's potato chips, you can't have just one!
Post a pic of what you get in the future,
JBJ

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

What do you guys think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Evin...004QQitemZ140200570349QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Look at this one it so nice.

But he wants over 1,000$ for it.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

It certainly looks good for its age---a '56 I believe. However, with shipping you'll have about $450 in it. To me, that's a little too much. And his guarantee is no good if you don't pick it up. I've bought several on ebay and liked 'em, but they almost invariably get something broken in shipping. If you get one there, beg the seller to take off the shift lever and tiller handle, wrap them carefully, and then hope for the best. Really, I swear it seems like the shippers literally throw them around and will break them no matter how well they're packed. I don't mean to scare you, just get you prepared.
JBJ

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Do you know of any good places on the web That sell old motors?

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

I paid 150 bucks for this one 3rs photo) on ebay. I had to replace the lower unit seals, new impeller, clean the carb, and fix an upper crankshaft seal (8 dollars). I then repainted it and got new decals. I've got about 350 in it now. You can do the same. If that guys motor is worth $1000 (and it probably is), then I wonder how much the free knowledge from the experts here is worth??? What I mean is, I fixed mine with help from these guys here on iboats. I am not a mechanic but with the help here, you can fix anything on a '50s OMC outboard. You'll be amazed at the brainpower here. Just a thought as to what you might do. Matter of fact, the blue '56 15 fastwin in the 1st photo was bought for $100 on ebay and was fixed in 20min. for about $40 strictly with info. I got from the iboats forum.......Thanks again, men!
JBJ

Also, since you're interested in a 7.5 I couldn't resist showing this '55 7.5hp pic with my boy running it a couple of days ago.

 

[F_R]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

OK, here's my 2c. My favorite motors in the 10hp range are the 1961-63 Evinrudes and Johnsons, with preference for the Evinrude because it has a better hood that doesn't flop around and rattle so much. Yes, it does have a less robust lower unit, but properly maintained they have a long life. Just don't run them with the gearcase full of water. There are several reasons for the 1961-63 preference, the huge biggie is that earlier models had a problem with beating the wrist pins out of the pistons. They finally got it right in '61, then quit making them with the '63. They have a fiberglass hood that may not stir up great nostalgic feelings, but hey they are quieter and don't rattle (Evinrude). They have the fuel pump instead of the pressure tank, so you won't be right back here asking how to convert it. Overall they are just an ideal fishing motor for the size. I learned to water ski behind one so they aren't a wimp...just need the right boat and not too much lard on the sitter.

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Ya I would rather get one that is more beat up and fix it up. I'm 16 and I want it because me and some of my freinds like to fish and we fish on a small aluminum boat. Right now we are using a 1966 5hp that I'm slowly fixing up but it's really hard to find parts and it's always in gear. I shouldn't have any prob fixing it since I always fix cars and go to a technical school and take auto.

 

[F_R]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Do you know of any good places on the web That sell old motors?

Absolutely: "www.aomci.org", without the " marks. That is the Antique Outboard Motors Club and has a free Webvertize classified ads page. Just place a free "wanted" ad. Those guys have a love and respect for old motors and will see to it that whatever you buy is packed so it won't get busted.

Better yet, join the club and go to some meets. You will find motors for sale and knowledgeable people to talk about them. Oh, you don't have to join the club to go to the meets. But once you get hooked, you will want to join.

 

[wbeaton]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Unless you are fishing waterways that prohibit 10 hp and above I'd go with any 10 hp between 1954-1963. I prefer the 1954-57, but they are all fine. The 10 hp should be about the same price as the 7.5 hp (which is a great motor) and slightly cheaper than the 9.5 hp.

C heck craigslist and other buy and sell websites. Also place a free ad at AOMCI. Someone near you will have something for sale at a reasonable price. Expect anywhere from $50-300. I wouldn't pay more than that. However, your geographic area may demand higher prices.

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Okay thanks I posted a add. If any body on here has one or knows sombody selling a 7.5hp or 10hp johnson or evinrude send me a pm.

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

What do you guys think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Evin...004QQitemZ140200570349QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I wouldn't buy from this guy for one, simple reason - he has 6 negative and 2 neutral feedbacks in the last 12 months, on only 327 total transactions since December of 2002. Most of these problems seem to be related to not describing the item as it really is and poor shipping practices.

EBay can be a great source for motors and parts but there is a lot of junk sold there and feedback scores are important to pay attention to. I also agree with the idea that complete motors are a safer purchase when they can be picked up rather than shipped. Even though the basic premise of EBay is that it is an auction with binding commitment after a bid, I wouldn't hesitate to walk away from the seller if he/she misrepresented the item.

 

[4.0l sahara]

Re: 1950's 7.5hp vs 1960's 9.5hp

Ya I normally don't look at the feed back till I buy. But your right his feedback isn't the best.