12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

btw......what ever you choose....your amoung friends here......we can walk you right thru anything you want to do
 

oregonboatnewb

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

Thanks man, now that i'm "in the know" i'll go re read it LOL. I think i'ma dump the boat, dump the trailer, and find a 14ft tinny, and a lighter trailer... Can't wait to hit the water in anything !
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

Spend a few minutes to review safety equipment needs (whistle, life jackets bare minimum <16') and basic "rules of the road" (right of way - red,right,return - etc.).
 

oregonboatnewb

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yeah, got fire extingiusher/whistle/jackets/throw pillow/flares and all kinds of ish for this 12 ft', just to be safe... but i'll just keep them for my 14ft... i found a good looking one...

http://bend.craigslist.org/boa/948993026.html

I'm gonna offer him around 950.00, bend's market right now is rags for boats !
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

Looks okay.
It's always good to hear the motor run if not take it for a short spin.
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

hey bud.....the trailer and motor you have are great....fantastic actually.

if you put the hull in your front yard and a sign that says "free"

then just look for a alumonium hull. you could be fishing by the weekend
 

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i agree just look for a 14 foot aluminum boat, it does not have to be a Valco. you have the trailer, and a good motor, that 9.9 is not going to push a boat much faster than the 7.5.
 

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I was told in the 9+ hp they vent the exhaust through the middle of the prop, which is alot more efficiant... appearntly in ones like mine, 7.5's it vents above the blades, and distrubes the vortex that is created by the prop... making it less efficiant (man my spelling is bad LOL)... I also found a 1985 25hp evinrude with 14ft boat for only 1100 local... gonna go look at it tomorrow...

What all should i look at on the motor/boat to make sure its worth the money ?

(besides basics like plugs, and ask him about water pump usage)

I put the trailer for sale on CL, already got a guy who wants to check it out today... if i can sell it for 450, dump the hull for 100 or free, and keep the motor... all will be good !!! only reason i would sell trailer, is almost all boats i see, come with trailers, and they are e-z-loaders, which im told are nice and alot lighter then mine, which would be great, cause my car likes to tow as little as possible.
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

Check compression on the motor(all cylinders the same compression withing about 10PSI).

Check the lower lube (should not look like coffee with cream. Typically may be alittle greenish.)

Many lower drain plugs are magnetic. If you see a lot of shavings on the drain plug, run.

Have the owner run it on muffs (with a hose) or in a barrel. Try and see it run in the water is even better. On the muffs, it may sound a little rough at idle, because it needs the water to muffle it properly. If the guy wants to run it dry, run because you don't know what else he may have done that was stupid.

If these guys say I am wrong beleive them as they typically know better. They talked me through a similar purchase this spring.

Good luck,
TerryMSU
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

get a 12ft -14ft alumium boat thats rated to about 15-25hp max. and make sure the boat is all welded alumuiun with metal benches and the transom with the older boats would probably be wood other i guess aluimum? the newer ones.


cheaper and saves u some time getting the new or used metal boat
 

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How do you run the motor "muff" Just put a hose up to the area that sucks in the water ?

To check the lower grease, just take the screw off the top ? or bottom ? and if it looks like coffee, mabey it has water in it ? that why i dont want it ?

Also, an "all welded aluminum" is that vs a riveted aluminum boat ?

What do you guys think of these 2 boat... What seems like the better deal ?
The Valco i talked to already, got him down to 1000.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/945166172.html

or

http://eugene.craigslist.org/boa/946976113.html
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

as i said in the other post, the second boat better fits your needs, with weight and people.
 

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I put the trailer for sale on CL, already got a guy who wants to check it out today... if i can sell it for 450, dump the hull for 100 or free, and keep the motor... all will be good !!! only reason i would sell trailer, is almost all boats i see, come with trailers, and they are e-z-loaders, which im told are nice and alot lighter then mine, which would be great, cause my car likes to tow as little as possible.

That is a nice trailer. Anyway, I was going to reply before I read the rest of the replies, but looks like you have decided to sell. I /like/ fiberglass boats and hate the sound of clanking in an aluminum boat every time you move, and I like the look of your boat. If you were in Vermont I'd solve your $100 re-coup right away!

Someone suggested about $400 to fix that boat, but I would not suggest trying (to fix it) if restoring a cool-looking little boat is not a part of your goals. For me, I would do it in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't use much wood. I would 'make' my own floor stringers and even the floor itself right in place with fiberglass and epoxy resin wrapped over corrugated cardboard forms: lighter than wood and never will rot. My 1972 MFG Niagara is made that way and the floors are concrete solid, and have held my 16" surface-mount seat bases very solidly for 12+ years. I wish I had pictures of my boat but it has never occurred to me to do that! Here's one (attached) when it still had the old 40hp Johnson.

The keel problem you have is solvable. It needs to be well dried out, and wouldn't be hard since the boat is small and light enough to turn over and have gravity help you. You would need to sand and grind out what appears to be a poor effort at patching the keel by previous owner. The "choppy" edge that shows is likely fiberglass roving or woven cloth with which it was originally constructed. It looks (to me, from the pics) to be worn from beaching, and it looks like P.O. used a black patching compound (hopefully epoxy, not bondo!) to attempt a repair- 50% of the effort and 20% of the results.

If you do decide to keep it, a] I can answer repair questions, and b] 3 people would be pushing it in a boat that size.

There is a nice 12' v-bottom aluminum boat that went down on Lake Carmi in Vermont this summer. I know the guy who had it. Common sense is not not always common, and he had himself, daughter, and three 10- 14-year-old Boy Scouts in the boat along with a bunch of gear. They had a ski boat run by a ways out, but the wake didn't rock the boat as expected. Not being buoyant, the wave crested the maybe 6-inches of freeboard, immediately swamping the boat. No one was hurt, but apparently the boat had no flotation (or so much gear) that it dropped out from under them like a sawed-out floor in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

So a bigger boat might be your most usable option.

Good luck in your search, and post some pictures of your new boat.
 

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oregonboatnewb

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

Mark,

Yeah, its a great little looking boat, and if it would be usable for what i needed, i most definatly would restore this little beast... However i didn't do enuf reasearch prior to buying a 12ft'r, and didn't calculate gear and other things, so its not going to suite my need... I've got it local for 200 bucks, if i doesn't sell in a week, i'll do 100... I've already had lots of emails about the trailer/motor, so i dont think i'll have trouble getting my money back out of this deal ! Just can't wait to get something that will work bette for me, live and learn !
 

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Dumped the Boat and Trailer for 420.00 So I'm out 30 bucks and a rifle worth under 100.00, and i've got a great evinrude 7.5 kicker =).

Really wish i woulda been able to jump on this deal someone did on CL Yesterday...
He had 4 motors, 2 evinrude's from late 80's a 9.9 and 15, a 6hp johnson from 90's and 25hp johnson from 90's... He put them all up for 150.00 EACH, and i called 45min after the add posted, told him i would pay double... he said someone was already on there way... i told him if he doesn't buy em, i will... he called me back to tell me he sold all 4, for 400 total... i about shat my pants... they were his fathers, and were left to him when he died... but still... i even offered to ebay em for him, and he could donate anything above 400 to charity, but he just wanted em gone...
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

how is the search for a tinny going?
 

oregonboatnewb

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I actually ended up rebuying the 69 glasspar 14ft blue one, with bad lower end, just got it off, and found a new one for 200 bucks shipped ! I also tho might get me a tinny, due to such a bad economy, i'll keep it till mid summer, see which i like, and sell the other... Here is one i might go get (Guy said he would trade me for 110cc atv that i import)

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/964260213.html
 

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Re: 12ft Fiberglass Boat, Worth saving ?

Kudos on finding the lower unit. As far as that tinny is concerned, looks pretty solid, although the trailer is kind of weird, looks a like overkill for that boat. In my area that would be a little overpriced, even though it has been redone, don't know how the boat market is there though. I'd knock a few hundred off and if he doesn't like it , walk away. You don't necessarily need a refurbished one if you might get rid of it in six months anyway. There are probably better deals to be had. Just my $.02. Good luck.
 

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Yeah, I wasn't paying the 1000 asking price, i'm trading her for an atv that sells for around 800, and cost me much less.
 
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