Obama: I'd Invade Ally

[ricksrster]

STUNNING PLAN TO FIGHT QAEDA IN PAKISTAN

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0802200...news_charles_hurt____________bureau_chief.htm

 

[RubberFrog]

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Another military genius.

 

[POINTER94]

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Funny I didn't hear the word surrender.... Yet!

 

[12Footer]

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They would have him as CiC!!

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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He has not learnt anything from the past has he?

 

[woodrat]

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ho hum.. the bush administration has already been threatening to do exactly that.

where were the posts of dismay a couple of weeks ago, when this was in the regular news, not just the whacko new york post?

 

[OldMercsRule]

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ho hum.. the bush administration has already been threatening to do exactly that.

Hey there Einstein r' I mean: Rat, why don't you provide an actual quote or two to back up the carp that jus' rolled of that keyboard of yers.

where were the posts of dismay a couple of weeks ago, when this was in the regular news, not just the whacko new york post?

Provide the quote if ya didn't just make this up. JR

 

[treedancer]

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Quote OMR

Provide the quote if ya didn't just make this up.


I?m not woodrat but will provide the link too, what I think is the article he was referring too.

< The Bush administration, after publicly demanding that Musharraf rein in militants linked to al Qaida, on Wednesday threatened to launch attacks into Pakistani territory if it sees fit.>

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/18140.html

Here is another one from last year also.


< NEW YORK (CNN) -- President Bush said Wednesday he would order U.S. forces to go after Osama bin Laden inside Pakistan if he received good intelligence on the fugitive al Qaeda leader's location.>

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/20/bush.intv/index.html

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Thanks Einstein 'r Rat 'r Tree,

There is a big difference in a sitting President using a carrot, (big aid $) n' stick, a qualified public prodin' (if ya don't we may/will do whatever), to get the desired action that the Bush Administration has generally got outa Pakistan. Especially when Mr. Bush has the enemy's main stream media, (that's the MSM in this Country: Rat in case yer nappin') constantly tryin' to pin down Mr. Bush fer statements about difficult war relationships they can exploit to help the Islamo Facists win this war against us.

I feel it is quite another matter for a green, (in terms of International exposure), domestic Pol running fer Pres, (one of the three dip stick Dem front runners), to chastise a GREAT ally: AUSTRALIA, n' and troublesome though very important ally walkin' a tightrope: PAKISTAN over what he would do to flex his Liberal VERY irrational military muscles.

He'd surrender to the Islamo Facists in an important place: Iraq, but he would pour our Military resorces into a worthless place: Afganistan n' hammer our other ally: Pakistan chasin' the illusive OBL that he may never catch.

Is Liberalism a mental disorder?

(Mr. Tree), Rat, if ya really wanna loose n' take the cornsequences, (smokin' ruins of Western cities), by all means denigrate our current brave leaders tryin' ta protect us n' win n' help the dip stick Dems arrange fer our surrender. I hope it makes ya proud to be part of the process of defeat. JR

 

[woodrat]

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sorry OMR, I was out fishing today with Haut and Tail Gunner, and I missed the chance to respond immediately to your "denigrating" request that I back up the "crap" that I posted here. Looks like treedancer has you covered though, and in typical Limbaugh-like fashion, you found a way to describe how it was OK for W to do what it is NOT ok for anyone else to even speculate about.

the rest of your diatribe isn't nearly as important to me right now as cleaning fish is...

later

 

[treedancer]

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Quote OMR


Thanks Einstein 'r Rat 'r Tree,


Hmmm? I don?t know Woody, looks to me he just slandered you, Me ,or possibly both of us, he called somebody a rat.

 

[woodrat]

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I don't think he likes me! <laughing>

 

[OldMercsRule]

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sorry OMR, I was out fishing today with Haut and Tail Gunner, and I missed the chance to respond immediately to your "denigrating" request that I back up the "crap" that I posted here. Looks like treedancer has you covered though, and in typical Limbaugh-like fashion, you found a way to describe how it was OK for W to do what it is NOT ok for anyone else to even speculate about.

the rest of your diatribe isn't nearly as important to me right now as cleaning fish is...

later

Sorry Rat, I was unable to respond to what you have now labeled as "denigrating" as I was hangin' at RR island, so here it is. I lack yer abilities to decern the level of competance by jus' readin' the very biased MSM, (that's main stream media: Rat), papers as you claim to be able to do. That said: I can use me single brain cell to ponder the approprateness of the geopolitical statements of a front running dim wit Dem Presidential candidate.

#1 Obama is a very sharp, smooth, n' skilled Democrat Politician with a fair amount of domestic political experience appealing to dim wit victims in a large Democrat dominated very politically corrupt State. His experience in national politics is much more limited, and three recent comments directed at or about parties outside our borders does not impress me in any way shape or form, (but I only have one brain cell n' I'm certianly not Einstein).

#2 Obama "denigrated" the Iraq war contributions of one of our most dependable allies: Australia for domiestic political cornsiderations showing extreme short sightedness if he were to be so lucky as to find enough people like you to vote for him and put him into the office of President of the US, (Lord forbid: please).

#3 Obama claimed that if elected Pres, (by Liberal Einsteins of course), [heaven forbid: please dear God], he would sit down any old time without preconditions with our current enemies. Not tooo bright to a guy with only one brain cell, but I'm not Einstein.

#4 Obama specifically said that he would go into nuclear armed current ally Pakestan on "actionable intelegance" against the wishes of the Pakestani leadership. Did not sound so good to a guy with a single brain cell, but Einstein may not agree.

#5 Obama wants to close Gitmo and use taxpayer funded lawyers to defend the terrorists on American soil in American courts.

#6 Obama wants to surrender in Iraq, n' throw all our military muscle into Afganistan n' Darfur, n' attack Pakistan anytime he can find "actionable intel". Wasn't intel the problem with WMD, (that's weapons of mass distruction: Rat)?

Obama sounds like a typical irrational modern American move on . org hate n' blame America first Liberal. Why do Libs n' Dems think they can read minds so well they can ignore the plain language of the Islamo Facists who clearly think Iraq is a "must win" battle in the big war against Islamo Facism?

As to President Bush's tactics with Pakistan: My experience in Seattle with snoty Libs is the least informed Liberals who have difficulty tying their shoes (without finding a victimhood angle fer a tax payor funded hand outs) are the first to label "incompetant" those who actually are doing a very skillfull job on something they just can't even begin to understand.

President Bush has very good results with his relationship with Pakistan. A little public proding from time to time seems to serve him very well thank you very much: Mrs Jones. If Portland Libs lack the mental capacity to see the clear positive results we have had with Pakistan, n' think they are sooooooooooo smart that a half wit threatening to bomb our allies n' kiss our enemies n' surrender n' throw our military at worthless places that they like fer president brings up that ol' nagin' question: Is Liberalism a mental disorder?

How's that fer a "denigrating" response Einstein? JR

 

[Haut Medoc]

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I must admit that the Dems are doing everything possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, in every shape, fashion & form......​

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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I must admit that the Dems are doing everything possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, in every shape, fashion & form......​

We are on a downhill spiral that I don't know if we will recover or not.
All joking aside, it really is not looking good for America.
With all the illegals coming across the borders unchecked and with what the political parties, yes, both sides, are doing, it's hurting us more than helping I am afraid.

God help our children and their children.

 

[jasonh]

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I'm not a democrat, but I have to admit I'm impressed with Obama's willingness to at least entertain hypothetical questions. Seriously, when was the last time a politician treated a hypothetical question with anything less than outright contempt?

There was a great article on Slate where it examined this curiosity. To make a long point short, is it not ironic that Bush, who HATES hypothetical questions, could have possibly avoided ruining our country if he had thought, hypothetically, what would happen if he was wrong about WMD's?

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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The past will rear it's ugly head again if it looks like he has even the slimmest of chances at the office I'm afraid.

PS. Wonder why Powell did not run?
He would have been a shoe in, but he was smart.
He knew better.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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I'm not a democrat, but I have to admit I'm impressed with Obama's willingness to at least entertain hypothetical questions. Seriously, when was the last time a politician treated a hypothetical question with anything less than outright contempt?

There was a great article on Slate where it examined this curiosity. To make a long point short, is it not ironic that Bush, who HATES hypothetical questions, could have possibly avoided ruining our country if he had thought, hypothetically, what would happen if he was wrong about WMD's?

Jasonh, WMDs did not change a single thing about Iraq it just gave the MSM, (that's main stream media: Rat) a great point to pound on our war time leaders. If yer a dim wit Dem or a dim wit Dem supporter, (which I'm glad to hear yer not, hope yer bein' truthfull), ya have to remember the MSM are yer friends. They will amplify yer positives n' hammer Republicans n' Cornservatives negatives ta try to defeat Republicans all the time, (n' they work very closely with all America's enemies). Hypothetical questions are treated very differently depending on who asks n' who answers.

Yer really impressed that a person who could be the President of the US in 2009 wants to meet (without any precornditions) with all our enemies and bad mouth and threaten our war time allies. I'm not impressed at all, (but I only have one brain cell).

If ya have one functional brain cell ponder the following: #1 Sadam attacked most of his neighbors during the time he was in power. BTW: those neighbors n' that neighborhood is critical to the Western world, (hopefully one brain cell is suffient ta understand that minor lil' corncept, but ya never know). #2 Sadam never had a weapon he did not use. #3 Sadam had the oil for food deal all worked out in HIS FAVOR, (thanks to the Libs in the UN and Europe). #4 Do you really think he would have let Iran get nukes, (as they clearly are getting very close to having), without buildin' some of his own? (only one functional brain cell necessary).

So proposin' attackin' our allies n' negotiatin' with our enemies n' is a great sport with ya durin' a time of war I guess, eh? To each their own I say! JR

 

[jasonh]

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I agree with some of your points. I'm just not 100% sold on the idea that they are necessarily one of our allies.

The question he was asked was is - If he found actionable intelligence about al-Qaida leaders hiding out in the mountains of Pakistan, would he send in troops whether the Pakistani government liked it or not?

Right, wrong, or indifferent, here is someone who reveals his thought process and is unafraid to answer questions most politicians would die before attempting to answer. I'm not banging the drum to "vote for Obama", but I suppose I'm just dazzled that here is someone that's willing to speak his mind rather than be afraid of how his poll #'s will react.

"But what might not be great for Obama politically is great for us, so we should thank him for taking the risk. These kinds of questions let us see how candidates' minds work, glimpse at their capacity for imagination, and assess their ability to survey and understand the landscape before them."

 

[OldMercsRule]

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I agree with some of your points. I'm just not 100% sold on the idea that they are necessarily one of our allies.

The question he was asked was is - If he found actionable intelligence about al-Qaida leaders hiding out in the mountains of Pakistan, would he send in troops whether the Pakistani government liked it or not?

Right, wrong, or indifferent, here is someone who reveals his thought process and is unafraid to answer questions most politicians would die before attempting to answer. I'm not banging the drum to "vote for Obama", but I suppose I'm just dazzled that here is someone that's willing to speak his mind rather than be afraid of how his poll #'s will react.

"But what might not be great for Obama politically is great for us, so we should thank him for taking the risk. These kinds of questions let us see how candidates' minds work, glimpse at their capacity for imagination, and assess their ability to survey and understand the landscape before them."

Jasonh, I'm not sure of much, but I'm 100% sure that I don't want a potential US President who will say that kind of carp while running to be MY and all of OUR President. You may wish to ponder just how much those stupid comments would potentially haunt him were he to get to be President. Hillary is crushing him in front of our eyes, (to those of us who choose to see what their eyes show them n' hear what their ears tell them). Please think clearly. Those comments are totally disqualifying when running for the office he is pursuing. Respectfully, JR