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  1. redstrat

    Tilt/ Trim under power

    I am noticing that my 125 Force will trim under power but only go to the tilt if I am at idle speed. I don't have a problem with this but I would like to understand how this is controlled.
  2. redstrat

    85 hp Force float bowl springs

    After mentioning to a friend that I am somewhat familiar with these motors, the boat now rests in my yard and has become my project. We have good compression and spark. Carbs are a mess. Someone tried to silicone the bowls on. I have the carbs apart and noticed that there are no springs attached...
  3. redstrat

    Gauge selection Force 125

    With my rebuilt Force 125 broken in and running fine I am on a mission this winter to fit my Checkmate with water pressure and temperature gauges so I can start raising the motor for optimal performance. I'm looking for a temp gauge in the 60 to 200 degree range. Any input on gauges you guys...
  4. redstrat

    Force 125 fuel delivery ?

    After toying with this all summer I'm stuck. I now have 10 hours on my rebuilt (ported ) 125. It starts and idles beautifully. I can cruise at 3500 to 4200rpms all day and never misses a beat. But, if I throw the throttle down hard it will run like a bear for about 30 seconds and then die. I...
  5. redstrat

    Tiny Tach troubles

    I'm using a Tiny tach on my 125 Force. I've installed it as per instruction but I'm struggling to get a consistent read out. I've tried 1, 2 and 3 wraps in many different places on the #1 wire with no luck. It seem to read high #s most of the time. 1/2 throttle is showing 6krpms. At idle it...
  6. redstrat

    Tiny Tach troubles

    I'm using a Tiny tach on my 125 Force. I've installed it as per instruction but I'm struggling to get a consistent read out. I've tried 1, 2 and 3 wraps in many different places on the #1 wire with no luck. It seem to read high #s most of the time. 1/2 throttle is showing 6krpms. At idle it...
  7. redstrat

    Chrysler Bling

    After rebuilding my 125 Force and mounting on the back of my freshly restored Checkmate, I decided the hood needed a little something to dress it up. It kind of looked like a refrigerator hanging on the back of my boat. I decided to use the same script that is on my 2000 Town and Country. It...
  8. redstrat

    1949 lapstrake, epoxy or not?

    Hi, I am starting to restore a 14' 1949 Duke Seabird. The boat was purchased new by my grandfather in 1949. It was only used about 1 week each summer, always stored inside and has not been in the water since 1974. My father had repaired two cracked planks with glass many years ago. I have just...
  9. redstrat

    ported Force 125

    I have four hours on my fresh rebuild. Still running 25 to 1 fuel and I'm fouling plugs when I throw the throttle down. I'm not sure whether it's the rich mixture or weak ignition. Here are a couple of pics of the bypass ports. Any advice from those who have been down this road will be...
  10. redstrat

    Break in after rebuild

    After two year on my bench I'm finally ready to start my Force 125. All I have left is to clean and mount carbs, mount the control box, and lync/sync. (Thanks Frank) What is the easiest way to ground spark plugs while setting the timing? I have an extra head that I could ground to the motor but...
  11. redstrat

    steering wheel wrap

    I decided to try to wrap my steering wheel to match my interior... easier said than done. Looked at some videos; 8 try later I have something I'm pleased with. Here is what I learned. 1. Make your cover to the inside diameter of the wheel. 2. Cut the vinyl across the roll so that the fabric will...
  12. redstrat

    73 Checkmate MX-16 resto/mod

    Hi all, I've been working on my Checkmate for 2 years and posting to the checkmate site. I've been on Iboat for the motor work but last night was the first I looked at the build/restoration forum. This is AWESOME! It will take me months to read through the information I am interested here. Here...
  13. redstrat

    force 125 lower crankshaft seal

    I posted this question on my 125 rebuild thread with no response so I thought I would try again. I'm trying to remove the seal from the lower crank bearing. I sprayed it with penetrating oil, heated it with a heat gun, bolted it back in the split casing, and tried a pry type seal puller with a...
  14. redstrat

    control box

    In my bartering I got both types of controls (cables behind, and in front of the mounting panel). I decided to use the cables in front box because it had the tilt/trim switch on the handle. Not wanting the exposed cables, here is what I came up with. All this will get covered with closed cell...
  15. redstrat

    125 lower unit choices

    Hi, I've been spending some time trying to sort out my lower units and here are my questions. All of these I got on trade for upholstery services. The first one I believe is off a 91 120hp. I know this won't work for the 125 I'm rebuilding but I wanted to test it before I sell it. At 10lbs it...
  16. redstrat

    Force 125 rebuild

    Ok, I just got my 1989 block back from being machined. They took it .020 over with diamond honing for a cost of $200. Seems mine was the first outboard motor to be done on their new $50k machine. I hope this is a good thing. I was going to send pictures but I can't seem to manage attachments...
  17. redstrat

    What are these thingys

    I found these rolling around in the legs of both my 88 and 89 force 125s. I assume they play a part in managing water as it exits the leg or snout. In both cases they were detached. Are they important, and what's the best way to keep them in place? Thanks
  18. redstrat

    125 carburetor options

    OK, I've sent my 89 125 block off for a bore and hone. I'm now starting to look at my carburetor collection. In one of my trades I picked up a bunch of parts from a 1996 120. The carbs appear to be very similar with the earlier style (primer instead of choke and a second needle adjusting screw)...
  19. redstrat

    Force 125 bypass valve

    When taking apart my 1986 force 125 the only bolt I snapped was one of the two holding the bypass valve. This motor has seen some salt water and the cavity for the valve, as well as the bottom #4 water jacket, were packed with sediment. I had to dig the valve out in pieces. Can someone explain...
  20. redstrat

    piston melt down

    I'm hoping I have the correct photo attached to this post. First time with this. Forgive me if I get it wrong. This piston is out of a 1986 Force 125 that I bought for parts. The owner said that he lost spark in one cylinder, diagnosed a bad stator, replaced it with a new stator, got spark and...
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