W's war

oddjob

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Originally posted by rickyp52:<br /> Hitler and the Japanese were threats to our liberty. <br /><br />I'd like to ask all you guys who support the war in Iraq a couple of questions. Is this just the first of many wars that need to be fought in the middle east? How will you define victory? When all middle east countries are democracies? When all the Muslim extremists are dead? When all Muslims are dead? cause it's really difficult to distinguish the extreme ones from the regular ones.
The terrorists have given us two choices: <br /><br />Convert to islam or wipe them out..<br /><br />for you frenchys - meddlin is to the east and you need to 5 times a day in thAT direction and start studying the quran. Oh and put a lamp shade over your womens head .....and dont let her out of the house.
 

rickyp52

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Originally posted by SBN:<br /> WMD's comes in different shapes and sizes ricky, don't have to be nuclear.
I think it is generally accepted that WMD's are either nuclear or biological in nature. These are the types of weapons Saddam was said to possess prior to our invasion. I don't think what the insurgents are using in Iraq qualify as WMD's.
 

Dave Abrahamson

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Just for the record, in WWII, Germany never attacked us. We went in after them. Should we have just let Hitler and the Nazi regime go on and hoped it went away al by itself. Or maybe let someone else do the dirty work? Hey, maybe if we had waited long enough we'd all be really fluent in German by now...Jå?<br />And when ya got lots and lots of bombs to blow up Humvees by the dozen...I would say that constitutes mass destructive capability.
 

rickyp52

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If you guys want to say that the insurgents having roadside bombs to blow up humvees exonerates W from the false claim that Saddam had WMD's then by all means do so. Seems like it's just a bit of a stretch to me, but whatever.
 

CJY

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have only one question for txs and CJY, but they won't answer. Are the people that we are fighting really bad and do they do really bad stuff? I promised I wouldn't use the "evil" word again as it freaks out those that can't answer the question . . .
I think you may need to listen better QC. Whom are we taliking about? Hussein? HE'S GONE. Is that not the person we went in to get??? <br /><br />How about the people that attacked the WTC??? Alive and well. Is he in Iraq??? NOOOO!<br /><br />
Are the people that we are fighting really bad and do they do really bad stuff?
Iraq should never have been priority #1. Are there bad bad people in Iraq, yes. Does that make them the most dangerous? NO, they can't touch us. Are there worse people we should be going after instead? YES! That is my issue with our occupation of Iraq. Outside of Hussein, please give me the name of one Iraqi threatening the US. I believe OBL just did that. Did he not? <br /><br />I answered your question QC. You answer mine. OBL attacked the WTC killing some 3,000, and you believe W was correct in going after Iraq first? If yes, please explain why, because I don't understand that logic.
 

Haut Medoc

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Dave, you are wrong....Germany declared war on U.S. first.....I think that lots of bombs doesn't really fit into what is widely accepted criteria for WMD...Sorry!.......JK
 

CJY

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I find your continual anti-American bleating and agitating offensive, and your ongoing use of innuendo and baseless accusations revolting. Anyone can see that you are employing the old "tell the lie over and over again until they believe it" tactic.<br />
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." GWB 2005<br /><br />Guess everybody uses that one DD.
 

NOSLEEP

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Some of you guys have a bad case of tunnel vision.<br />Open your eyes, take your blinders off. This<br />constant referral to WMD and O.B.L. is really<br />getting old. Get with the times, read your news<br />paper. Its bigger than that. It always has been.<br />To bad Bush couldn't fill you in on every detail<br />to meet with your approval. <br />Get over it. YOU are in it to its conclusion.
 

Haut Medoc

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And it wasn't until Italy declared war that we started quaking in our boots! :) :) :) .....JK
 

CJY

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Oh... wait... thats right, we haven't been attacked by terrorists again have we?
We have not been attacked by Iraq!
 

LubeDude

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TX:<br /><br />As much as I like discussing fishing and boating with you, your political veiws make me want to PUKE!!!!!!!
 

rickyp52

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The fact that we have not been attacked again has nothing to do with the war in Iraq. There was about 10 years between the World Trade Center bombing and 9/11. <br /><br />CJY raises a very valid point. Why aren't we going after OBL with more gusto? I can't believe that with all of the technology at our disposal, we can't catch the guy after 5 years. Makes one wonder if they really want to.
 

LubeDude

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Originally posted by rickyp52:<br /> I can't believe that with all of the technology at our disposal, we can't catch the guy after 5 years. Makes one wonder if they really want to.
Now this is something I have to agree with you on. :confused: Only thing I can say is that it must be taking too long to digest our intelligence reports.
 

txswinner

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Oddjob, Actually did not get picked on that much as a child, always been kind of peaceful. You are right I am kind of small, I was only 6'1" 165 when I accepted my ball scholarship to major university in TX.<br /><br />Not picked on but did not get into fights either. Guess some of you not that smart.
 

txswinner

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Abrahmson, Sorry it is an act of war to strike and sink any American ship in International water which was done by the Germans prior to our intervention into WWII. But you made a good effort to argue the point. Also we were attacked by the Japanese a member of the Axis powers. <br /><br />The Italians would have been the member who did not engage the United States with an act of war before our entry.<br /><br />Check with JB the conservative history teacher and I am sure he will confirm that for you.
 

txswinner

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Bassing, that is ok, can we use the puke for chum. I am puking this day as well just over my thoughts of the dead.
 

txswinner

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Nosleep, sounds like you might fit the under 35, get you a uniform and gun and go get 'em. If over that age get a security badge and go get 'em. I would love to see you when the first mortar came in or one of your buddies guts were blown in your face. Then you might understand the cost of this war.
 

PW2

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I'm going to relay a little literary reference as a sort of a Parable.<br /><br />Back in college, I read a book called "The Real adventures Of Huck Finn" In it the authors were fans of the original Twain novel, except for the ending, which they felt was contrived.<br /><br />If you recall, Huck and Jim were floating down the river, searching for Cairo, Illinois and freedom. They missed the connection to Cairo, and continued on 'down the river', where each adventure they had seemed somehow darker and more ominous than the last one. And yet they were trapped by the inevitable flow of the river, inevitably leading them to a darker reality.<br /><br />Twain resolved this by intoducing Tom Sawyer back into the story, and some fanciful tale of how it didn't really matter anyway. This is what those afforementioned authors disliked, and they wanted to continue it to the logical conclusion.<br /><br />This is comparable IMO, to this godawful war we are in, and how we have been "Sold down the River". At this point, there is simply no good way out, there is no answer, and we will inevitably be taken further and further down this river, with more and more ominous results, less and less chance of any good result, with few if any options available to change it.<br /><br />As Colin Powell said "You break it, you own it!"<br /><br />I just wish someone would come by willing to buy it from us.
 
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