Would you have intervened?

[southkogs]

Re: Would you have intervened?

It really is a good/safe town but the downtown area has been sort of set up for many reasons to be a haven for petty thief scum bags.

I said that from the perspective of having lived in Detroit for 27 years We had those same types of areas that attracted people because of anything from shelter to "an abundance of targets." Nashville has some of the issues too, but nowhere near as big or plentiful.

 

[bruceb58]

Re: Would you have intervened?

Not positive how confident I am that the '06 data is still good - I just compared Nashville to a few other towns I've lived in and the results are rather questionable.

Wikipedia has 2012 data and it looked similar. It had a huge database of cities so hard to compare them.

Only reason I posted that link was when I was kidding about LA and figured I would look up the difference just for the heck of it. I was pretty surprised. I have this vision of everything in Minnesota as being some small town with no crime I guess. Never been there so I have absolutely no idea.

All big cities do have issues and there are definitely areas of each that you have to be more careful in than others.

 

[nwcove]

Re: Would you have intervened?

It sounds to me that it's time you moved. We're not without sinners here and I'm sure there are some real creeps here, but not in such volume. So come on up and bring your family. Just leave your hardware at the border. - Grandad

have to agree. the big news here on the provincial radio talk show this morning was....where were the salt trucks with all this black ice? and talk about recycling waste. some bad things happen here also, but im not sure what id think about having to deal with some of the things posted in this thread.

 

[southkogs]

Re: Would you have intervened?

... some bad things happen here also, but im not sure what id think about having to deal with some of the things posted in this thread.

Small town vs. big city. Minneapolis and Nashville aren't much different than Toronto (IMHO). Get 30 miles out, and things feel probably much like you're used to.

 

[LippCJ7]

Re: Would you have intervened?

Been a pretty good winter for tough topics huh Mods??

Again Sub, I think you did great, just be careful ok?

Can't argue with that.

I agree, but with that comes the whole enchilada, can you kill someone? I mean seriously, how many CCW/CHP holders have actually thought about the reality that they are now in possession of a tool designed for one purpose, and can they do it...

Something I questioned my daughter and my exwife about regularly, not to mention the many who ask me my opinion on carrying...

I wished we had an opportunity to sit around a camp fire with a beer and talk about this stuff...

 

[Fun Times]

Re: Would you have intervened?

Been a pretty good winter for tough topics huh Mods??

Nope not at all, we're all on winter break. We're just gonna let you guys figure it all out on your own.:lol:

Unfortunately the topic above is real life that has to be considered at times whether or not you want to.

Unfortunately for the last thug that tried to snatch my wife's purse off her arm about two years ago while she was alone ended up laid out cold and bloody and thankfully only her fists hurt for a few short days afterwards.

 

[sublauxation]

Re: Would you have intervened?

At Lipp, my brother is a cop and I appreciate everything you guys do in dealing with these people. I've talked a lot with him over the whole ccw situation and he encourged it.

The ccw does add a new dimension. Thew way the law is written here if you intervene, even unknowingly, on behalf of whoever started the ruckus you have little protection. That makes walking into any situation difficult.

As to being prepared to use it, if it comes down to planting or being planted there's only 1 option that makes sense and the full consequences, mental and legal, can only be worked out if you're not planted. I'm willing to take that on in the right situation. I'm not sure I would have intervened the other day had I been carrying. I've pondered that a lot before and after this. If I had it would have been a lot of loud talking done from a distance, definitely not up close and personal.

@Fun Times, kudos to your wife for a job well done.

 

[jkust]

Re: Would you have intervened?

It sounds to me that it's time you moved. We're not without sinners here and I'm sure there are some real creeps here, but not in such volume. So come on up and bring your family. Just leave your hardware at the border. - Grandad

Well see this is just in downtown as far as where I experience it. Downtown it is block by block. In those bad blocks there is a huge concentration usually around and because of a convenience store that accepts government assistance, a bus stop, light rail stop/station or public/government type building. So for example you can be on a good block but see down to the street of the bad block from your office window.
Outside of downtown then if you were to never to enter the specific suburbs and urban areas where their section 8 homes exist, you would likely never have any of these types of issues.

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: Would you have intervened?

It sounds to me that it's time you moved. We're not without sinners here and I'm sure there are some real creeps here, but not in such volume. So come on up and bring your family. Just leave your hardware at the border. - Grandad

Nice post.

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: Would you have intervened?

At Lipp, my brother is a cop and I appreciate everything you guys do in dealing with these people. I've talked a lot with him over the whole ccw situation and he encourged it.

The ccw does add a new dimension. Thew way the law is written here if you intervene, even unknowingly, on behalf of whoever started the ruckus you have little protection. That makes walking into any situation difficult.

As to being prepared to use it, if it comes down to planting or being planted there's only 1 option that makes sense and the full consequences, mental and legal, can only be worked out if you're not planted. I'm willing to take that on in the right situation. I'm not sure I would have intervened the other day had I been carrying.

Yes. If you're carrying, you have to be VERY careful where you would actually "pull it out"

In Wa state, you're authorized to use deadly force to protect your self or other people from harm. But you better be right.


And also consider that if there's more than one person observing, expect there to be more than one cell-phone video of the entire thing!!

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: Would you have intervened?

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Nope not at all, we're all on winter break. We're just gonna let you guys figure it all out on your own.:lol:

Unfortunately the topic above is real life that has to be considered at times whether or not you want to.

Unfortunately for the last thug that tried to snatch my wife's purse off her arm about two years ago while she was alone ended up laid out cold and bloody and thankfully only her fists hurt for a few short days afterwards.

Very revalant post...i was about to go into a very deep post as to why a man would not just bust a bum's a@@ for being a idiot. Just like i said drop him cold out like a light...jaw broken...teeth out of place short of death ohhh well.

Qutie jaded is it not with one caveat if each and everyone of us knew the outcome of agressive behavior i will tell you this, there would be far less confusin in this world...To actually worry about a woman kicking some a@@ my god..ohhh ya dude you just pushed the wrong woman......

Jb a little articulation here are men becoming women what is it with this no pride BS


I should mention this..i work in a metro downtown full of bum's and have a heart for a lot of them....but twhen they get stupid there's no pity just swift action...it keep's things peaceful for all.

 

[generator12]

Re: Would you have intervened?

On 9/11/2001 a bunch of misfits flew two jet planes into the World Trade Centers with nothing but box cutters as weapons. When I was growing up in the fifties and sixties, that would have been impossible to do, as we hadn't yet been "taught" by then to "let the authorities handle it". Standing by and watching hoodlums do their thing is a byproduct of later times, especially in urban scenarios.

Fortunately, the third plane carried some people who hadn't quite gotten the message about standing meekly by. They all died as well, as they would have had they not intervened, but the thugs failed in their mission because of the intervention.

I don't know whether you did strictly the "right thing" - whether there was another, better way to accomplish what you accomplished. But in confronting it, you definitely did the right thing.