Wisconsin fishing boat

[roscoe]

What year is this boat ?
Some years, the Mr Pike 160 is listed at 16', some years at 16'2"


If 16' 0" or greater in length it needs a title,

"Buying a used boat 16 feet in length or greater
Applications to register boats 16 feet in length or greater, require additional titling documentation."

Wisconsin began titling boats February 1, 1989. So it may not have been issued a title if bought before that.


if 15'11" it may, or may not have a title.

But it will still have registration card with owners name on it.
You need this card, signed by the registered owner, to transfer ownership.

Does seller have registration card with his name on it?

There will be no title or registration for that trailer in Wisconsin.

BeforeYouBuy.html


https://dnr.wi.gov/permits/documents...tBoatSales.pdf


https://dnr.wi.gov/permits/registrat...rYourBoat.html


https://dnr.wi.gov/permits/registrat...tleStates.html

 

[roscoe]

https://appleton.craigslist.org/boa/...959574154.html

https://appleton.craigslist.org/boa/...969642401.html


There are literally hundreds, maybe a thousand of boat for sale in Wisconsin that fall into the 14-16' $1200 - $3000 range.

Find one in verified running condition, with proper paperwork.

 

[ahicks]

So, I need to verify if its 16' exact. A title would tell though.

Registration will confirm as well.

 

[CNT]

I have been watching CL. Made some contacts, but then the boats became sold already. Anyways, just thought to look at new jon boats (at Cabela's), I did a search on "all boats", sort by low to high price. I couldn't understand how a Tracker Topper Jon (11'11") (mere 5HP rated) @ $849, then next one is a Tracker Grizzly Jon (14') (alright 25HP rated) jump to $3,234 ? I am still looking (and learning some there and there). I am trying to understand how to price on used boats. Like one was $1,600 (40HP) and other very similar is $4,250 (30HP). Also, noticed many boats and outboards are in the late 1900's.

 

[CNT]

Probably wrong question... but anyways, wanna ask! As I looked at CL often and seen varies names of boats. I like to ask what are the "good" common names that pops up when talking about fishing boats. Sizes like 14'-17' (more or less), even down to plastic 2-men boats (Sun Dolphin, Pelican, etc).

General public say Bayliner is a good boat, but to me (and hopefully most of here) Bayliner is a no-no. In fact, I had one before (shared 1/2-1/2 with my BIL), it was junk (even it was in "good" condition). But, this isn't a fishing boat we're talking about in here.

Good names, like Tracker, Alumacraft, Four Winns (not a fishing boat), so on. There's new names (to me) that I am catching on. How is Sylvan, Lund, Smokercraft, any other general good brand names?

While on this topic, is there a brand name that "markets" or "comes with" a specific brand name outboards? Example, I see lot of Mercury on Lund, 2nd is Johnson on Lund.

I would stay away from fiberglass boats for river fishing.

Are gray Mariner Mercury actually Mercury?​

 

[roscoe]

For the first time boat owner:

Starcraft, Starweld, Sylvan, SmokerCraft, are all good, and are made in the same factory.
Alumacraft, Lund, Mirrocraft, G3, Grumman, Lowe, and Crestliner, all make decent aluminum fishing rigs.

They pretty much all make boats to fit a full range of budgets, which means they have a cheaper line of boats, and better line of boats, and a premium line of boats.

Tracker is not really that good. They are sold prepackaged and ready to go, often to inexperienced buyers, they are usually sold underpowered, so they rarely perform like they could if equipped with the proper sized outboard.
They do make some good boats, but most of them fall into the cheaper range.

Some people are all about fit and finish, like they are buying a Lexus suv or something. You will definitely pay extra for a boat like that.

You will definitely pay a premium for a Lund, and pay even more for that same boat if you buy one in Minnesota.

Boat manufacturers and engine manufacturers have formed and broken more partnership over the years than I can count.
A few years ago, 40 brands of boats, were owned by 2 major parent companies.
In the last 5 years, almost all the boat brands have been sold, traded, merged, or gone out of business.

Motor brands to look for, Johnson, Evinrude, Yamaha, Mercury, Honda.
Mariner motors were built in partnership between Yamaha and Mercury in the 80's.
Then buy Mercury in the 90's. Decent motors but not produced since '99. ?

Nissan/Tohasu/Mercury small motors are pretty much the same, except for cosmetics and some minor features.

And Suzuki makes some nice motors as well. I've been rather impressed by my buddies fuel injected 20 hp Suzuki.

Avoid any Evinrude motor with the word "Ficht" on it. It was the last motor OMC made before they went bankrupt and that motor was the final nail in the coffin.

Also, stay away from Chrysler out of business in '83,
Force USMarine out of business in 1989,
Force /Mercury discontinued and no longer factory supported since 1999.
Briggs and Stratton outboards are a lawn mower with a prop, poor performance and poor quality, and real friggin loud.

And no cheap chinese knock off motors from Coleman, or Fleet Farm.

Generally, stay away from motors older than 1984.

Not that some of these can't be good motors, but parts availability and skilled mechanics willing to work on them are getting hard to find.

 

[82rude]

Scott Danforth per your earlier post sea-doo brought out a jetski this year specifically for fishing.Up here on the st.marys river theres a fellow that has a small fishing show that uses a jetski to fish the river and rapids.If I was much younger that new ski-doo would already be in my driveway.:joyous:

 

[CNT]

Are we going to start talking about waders, rubber tube, tree logs, even nude?

I am looking/asking about BOATS, where I can stretch my legs, lay down my rods (while bobbing, with apples), drive with a outboard, even possibly considering a fish finder (never used it before though). I don't listen music/radios, I am DEAF! I am NOT interested in a wave boat.

Yes, ski-doo is for recreation, as speed boats. Pontoons can be both, but I am NOT interested in pontoons at this time. I even remember using (his) speed boat for fishing with him, we caught bunch of baby bass and they were fish slurry all over his seats. So, I am NOT interested in speed boats. If I won the lottery, THEN I would be interested in yachts.

OK, lets get back to Wisconsin fishing boats

 

[Scott Danforth]

again, fishing is not the equipment, its a state of mind. I have fished out of everything you can imagine in most of the places in WI

from ponds to streams to rivers to lakes to flowages..... fishing out of inner tubes to jetskis to kayaks to canoes to jon boats to utility boats to 24' pontoon boats to dedicated ski boats to cuddy cabins to cruisers.

if it floats, its a fishing boat

not sure I would fish nude.... too many musky

 

[DeepCMark58A]

Kind of comparing apples to pickup trucks.
A late model deep and wide runabout with a 90, compared to a 11' plastic with a trolling motor.


https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa...969324439.html $1600 wow

This one will be gone tomorrow.





https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa...962048627.html


https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa...969096684.html

https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa...953683312.html


https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa...942307496.html

I have seen that same boat listed on Minneapolis Craigs it is a scammer.

 

[DeepCMark58A]

OP at this point in the year you can keep looking and you may find a bargain. I looked for just about a year to find my Lund Mr Pike. Had to replace a solenoid on the tilt and trim was all but I got mine with a 50 hp Mercury a 1983, garage kept original carpet not even faded for $1875.00

 

[CNT]

I have seen that same boat listed on Minneapolis Craigs it is a scammer.

What does that mean? Meaning people buy those at a negotiated price, then attempt selling it again for a higher-than-paid price? Or meaning buy it from one town and sell it on another town? Or both?

Interesting today... I drove up north, just because. I picked up my plastic boat and my dad's alum boat. Brought both back home, I will look at it later. Been a long time since I pulled out those boats!

Anyways, as I drove, I seen several boats for sale on road sides. I stop and looked at few of 'em. Interesting, I saw one boat on a "one man dealer" car dealer, with just one boat there. It's "1994 Bass Tracker Tournament V17". Since there wasn't a "for sale" sign on it, I asked a man walking by, he said $2,500. That boat looks alright, but all the inside cabinets were dirty (maybe mold), beer cans, dirty parts, food wrappers, etc. The engine was a Mercury 60HP "oil injection". There was only two seats next to each other by the helm. Then, another place, at apt place, "1990 17' Bass Tracker" with 40HP Johnson, new trailer (brand new), asking $4,650. It was covered, I didn't want to pull it out, since it's not mine. It LOOKS like it includes a front trolling motor and a fish finder. So...

"1994 Bass Tracker Tournament V17" (60HP) @ $2,500
vs
"1990 17' Bass Tracker" (40HP) @ $4,650

I wonder do people actually buy those ~17' boats? So many are for sale, why? Perhaps new fad appeared so they switching to something else, perhaps pontoons (those are popping everywhere!)? Like Jet-Ski are becoming lot less common nowdays. Water skiing less nowdays too. Sorry, back to fishing boats.​

 

[CNT]

For the first time boat owner:

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Meaning those boat are "beginners boat"? Is it something that previous owners don't buy twice or third time?​

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snip...Sylvan...snip are all good

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Generally, stay away from motors older than 1984.

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This link below is a 1980 boat. Does the main motor (60HP) look original, an 1980 motor?

https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa/d/milwaukee-15-foot-sylvan-boat-with-60hp/6956523116.html

Also, it looks like too much money? Or not? I haven't looked at it yet.

 

[82rude]

Could be my glasses but im having a hardtime reading the big motors name.Looks like a 60 mariner which my brother also had .Yamaha powerhead.If your not sure take off the cowl and Yamaha made mariners say made in japan but more importantly have the Yamaha tuning fork logo.Were I live you could sell that all day long for 2 grand plus.Were your from maybe fall/winter pricing would be lower?

 

[DeepCMark58A]

What does that mean? Meaning people buy those at a negotiated price, then attempt selling it again for a higher-than-paid price? Or meaning buy it from one town and sell it on another town? Or both?

Interesting today... I drove up north, just because. I picked up my plastic boat and my dad's alum boat. Brought both back home, I will look at it later. Been a long time since I pulled out those boats!

Anyways, as I drove, I seen several boats for sale on road sides. I stop and looked at few of 'em. Interesting, I saw one boat on a "one man dealer" car dealer, with just one boat there. It's "1994 Bass Tracker Tournament V17". Since there wasn't a "for sale" sign on it, I asked a man walking by, he said $2,500. That boat looks alright, but all the inside cabinets were dirty (maybe mold), beer cans, dirty parts, food wrappers, etc. The engine was a Mercury 60HP "oil injection". There was only two seats next to each other by the helm. Then, another place, at apt place, "1990 17' Bass Tracker" with 40HP Johnson, new trailer (brand new), asking $4,650. It was covered, I didn't want to pull it out, since it's not mine. It LOOKS like it includes a front trolling motor and a fish finder. So...

"1994 Bass Tracker Tournament V17" (60HP) @ $2,500
vs
"1990 17' Bass Tracker" (40HP) @ $4,650

I wonder do people actually buy those ~17' boats? So many are for sale, why? Perhaps new fad appeared so they switching to something else, perhaps pontoons (those are popping everywhere!)? Like Jet-Ski are becoming lot less common nowdays. Water skiing less nowdays too. Sorry, back to fishing boats.​

They offer a boat at an amazing price, the "seller" as for money to be transferred electronically and poof they are gone with your money and there is no boat.

 

[roscoe]

For the first time boat owner:

The entire post was aimed at people buying their first boat.
General info about boats.


These are good :

Starcraft, Starweld, Sylvan, SmokerCraft, are all good, and are made in the same factory.
and Alumacraft, Lund, Mirrocraft, G3, Grumman, Lowe, and Crestliner,

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The reason I recommend to stay away from motors older than 1984, technology.
Motors newer than 1984 will have electronic ignition. Thats a good thing.
Newer motors, especially those 40 hp and larger, are more likely to have power tilt and trim. This is also a good thing.

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This link below is a 1980 boat. Does the main motor (60HP) look original, an 1980 motor?


Looks to be an early 80's Mariner 60 2 cylinder. Yes a good motor, if maintained, and in good condition, but doesn't appear to have tilt n trim.

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Boat values are not like cars.
There is no set value.
Age means little.
Condition is number one.
Same with outboards, and the trailers.
And does it fit your needs and intended uses.
Used fishing boats in this price range will be priced all over the place.

If its in good condition, and fits your needs, and price is generally in the ball park, it is worth
what you are willing to pay for it.

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Ok, I'm out of here. Going to Canada for a month to fish and to hunt moose.

Good Luck.

 

[CNT]

They offer a boat at an amazing price, the "seller" as for money to be transferred electronically and poof they are gone with your money and there is no boat.

Oh, that. That being said, probably if I was to pay (cash) for a boat, I should have the boat already hooked up on the hitch and the title in my passenger seat, before I hand them money.

 

[DeepCMark58A]

The seller plays on the greed of the potential buyer and put on blinders, the seller wants an electronic transfer and wants it in a hurry. The potential buyer believes he better hurry before it is gone. I too will not fork over the $ till the boat is inspected. I also only take cash when selling a boat.

 

[Reelnice]

A 14' aluminum boat 1990's or newer would be perfect.

Here is one, will do the river and the lake. 25 hp electric start, nice trailer,
steering console, $1400

https://wausau.craigslist.org/boa/d/...950889370.html









A similar boat with a 9.9 or 15 tiller would work too.


https://wausau.craigslist.org/boa/d/...959464265.html


Newer boats tend to be wider, more stable, keep the Mrs happy.

Raising things up on platforms will raise the center of gravity and make it tippy.

That's a clean looking little boat. If the engine is in good shape it could be worth it. One thing I've learned from buying smaller boats is to always inspect the trailer. Few year back I bought a used ski boat and didn't realize the trailer was basically rusted out. I would've paid significantly less if I realized that before I made the purchase.