Will my Ford tow this?

infideltarget

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Re: Will my Ford tow this?

trailer sway is a different beast altogether. a 1000 pound trailer is more than enough to take a 1 ton duelly off the road, believe it or not. I've seen it happen... All you need is some negative tongue weight, and add in cargo that can shift (liquid cargo in particular), and bye bye truck!

Oh yes. I am well aware of it. I pulled a 53' van for about 8 years. Also, I pull a 31' travel trailer with our Expedition. I have three types of sway control and a weight distributing hitch. I am fully aware of how it can cause issues. But that is exactly my point. His scenario is just asking for trouble, ans Explorers are not known as fantastic heavy tow vehicles.
 

kenmyfam

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not quite that simple... If he is pulling that 3 blocks to the ramp, its perfectly fine. He could run in low range at 10 mph even. Look around at a marina sometime, you might be surprised at how small their tow vehicles that are used WAY past their tow limits. In a tight boat yard, a small vehicle can manuever around where a big truck wouldn't stand a chance.

I will respectfully beg to differ and leave it at that.
 

Chris-R

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That Bayliner plus trailer puts you overweight. Never mind that you also add the weight of all your stuff, gas in the boat, people in your truck, etc. The biggest issue is that you only have a V-6 with the 5 speed transmission. The V-8 version is much different as it includes the 6 speed transmission found in the F-150. With your V-6 setup, you'll kill your engine and transmission in no time. I had an Explorer with a V-6 and it's not a very powerful setup. Unless you are driving 5 or 10 minutes from home on back roads, I suggest you get a different tow vehicle. Sorry for the bad news.
 

boaterinsd

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I am not a Ford guy and they are called Exploders for a reason, DONT try this at home. There is this great truck called a Suburban look into purchasing one. Not having a region or state you are in kinda scares me. Sorry to say, but I have a family on these roads.
 

zafrobird

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How far are you towing? That is almost more important than the actual weight in this case. Are you moving it 3 blocks to a local ramp on weekends? Or going down the highway at 75 mph 300 miles? The answers are VASTLY different depending on that info...

(3 blocks, absolutely, not a problem, I've seen far smaller vehicles tow far more. 300 miles on the highway? Cheaper to buy a 3/4 ton, because you will be replacing your tow truck by the end of that trip.)

I would be towing it for about 10 miles where I will dry berth it. Unfortunetely there are no side roads at all.

After reading alot of these comments, I gotta say I'm concerned now.

The boat weighs in at exactly 4624 lbs without fuel (which it won't have when towing). The trailer weights 1,085 lbs for a total of 5709 lbs. My Ford's max tow capacity is 5375 lbs.
 

Cannondale

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I would be towing it for about 10 miles where I will dry berth it. Unfortunetely there are no side roads at all.

After reading alot of these comments, I gotta say I'm concerned now.

The boat weighs in at exactly 4624 lbs without fuel (which it won't have when towing). The trailer weights 1,085 lbs for a total of 5709 lbs. My Ford's max tow capacity is 5375 lbs.


As well you should be. Like everyone has already pointed out, towing near a vehicle's tow capacity limit isn't very safe or smart.....I certainly wouldn't try to tow any load near our Blazer's capacity limit of 5200#.

But now you're looking to tow something that's already almost 400# beyond your vehicle's tow capacity, and that doesn't include anything inside the truck outside a 160# driver (the weight Ford assigns to the driver when determining towing capacity of the vehicle) and a half full tank of gas. Add anything to that load (heavier driver, full tank of gas, a Kleenex, a soda, a passenger, etc.) and your tow capacity drops by a like amount.

Personally, I wouldn't tow that setup out of my yard, much less down any roads traveled by the unsuspecting public. Your vehicle's suspension, engine, transmission, and brakes just weren't designed to safely pull that load anywhere.


Just to share something I saw yesterday......we made a quick trip from Savannah, GA to Orlando, FL to pick up some parts for my outboard (saved a ton of money on a deal I couldn't pass up....but that's another story). The majority of the drive was done in the 75-80 mph range on the 70 mph speed limit I-95. On the return trip, we kept encountering a pair of vehicles towing loads, a Cadillac SRX towing a very small enclosed utility trailer from Pennsylvania which was following a Dodge Ram extended cab pickup pulling what appeared to be a newly purchased travel trailer (guess they were going back to PA.....the Caddy was following right behind the Dodge and shadowing its every move.)

Now, here's the ugly part. The vast majority of the time we were in FL, we were doing around 75-76mph in the 70mph zones. We'd occasionally catch up to the pair of trucks when traffic would slow everyone down to our speed, but when traffic allowed, they'd pull away, so we only saw the pair from the rear. But when we approached Savannah's outskirts, we were back in familiar territory and sped up a tad.....enough to catch up and pass the pair. That's when we saw what was really scary about them.......

The Dodge was obviously pulling a load way beyond what it was rated for---the truck and trailer made the nicest "V" centered on the hitch. The truck looked like its rear end was sitting on its suspension stops and the front end was pointing upward so hard its headlights looked like they could be used to signal aliens. Every single bump in the road (going over expansion strips that were slightly uneaven, over the two bridges we saw near Savannah that didn't have exactly smooth transitions between the roadway and bridge) produced sparks from the safety chains hitting the ground....and the chains weren't overly long....and that trailer swayed back and forth so badly after hitting those road blemishes we were surprised the trailer hadn't taken over the lead from the truck.

We left them trucking north when we exited at the Savannah airport, the two were still driving 70+ mph, trailer swaying like a hula dancer, and I just thought it was an accident waiting for th emost inopportune time to happen....avoiding a road obstacle, sudden swerve of another vehicle into his lane in front of him....it wouldn't take much to lose his load, and maybe his life----not to mention any others near him when he loses control.

Just don't do it.
 

'78 Crusader

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Cannondale speaks the truth.......I've seen that exact scenario on I-95 in Florida too.....crazies.

Ya know, now that you mention the estimated towing weight of your boat and trailer...a normal Class III hitch on the back of your truck is only rated to 5,000 pounds anyway...so you'll be towing that boat at 709 pounds above what the hitch is rated for (not including the weight of all the items that we don't think weigh anything). Here's the link to the Hidden Hitch site where I came up with my numbers.

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Ford/Explorer/2010/70648.html?vehicleid=20107051

Some Class III hitches are rated to tow 6,000-pound trailers with a tongue weight of up to 600 pounds but all the hitches I've looked up specific to your vehicle states a 5,000 max towing limit.

If I were you, like everyone one else has told you, I'd get a bigger towing rig even just to tow her a few blocks. Man, that just isn't safe for you to do. Aside from the God forbid death or injury of an innocent person from your towing beyond the vehicles and hitch limits, the liability issue that could be levied against you and your family could last generations....seriously, it could.

Be careful, think twice about your decision and move forward wisely.
 

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I had a 2002 Bayliner 245 that I towed several times on long trips. I used a GMC Envoy 02 6 cyl. with a tow capacity of 6000. You should be fine and she is under your estimated weight anyhow. As long as you have good trailer brakes and keep it 55.
 

infideltarget

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I had a 2002 Bayliner 245 that I towed several times on long trips. I used a GMC Envoy 02 6 cyl. with a tow capacity of 6000. You should be fine and she is under your estimated weight anyhow. As long as you have good trailer brakes and keep it 55.

You got lucky, there MR. First Poster. Are you willing to take the liability for his actions? I think he already stated he knew he was over his capacities. Are you saying you know his vehicle better than he does? :facepalm: :troll:
 

'78 Crusader

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Dang infidel, you don't know that guy...cut him some slack. Great way to welcome a new guy to the boards. You don't have to be a **** to the guy because he's posting his opinion. Are you a site moderator yourself??
 

infideltarget

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Dang infidel, you don't know that guy...cut him some slack. Great way to welcome a new guy to the boards. You don't have to be a **** to the guy because he's posting his opinion. Are you a site moderator yourself??

Nope. Dont wanna be either. I dont think I was harsh at all. I think it is VERY irresponsible to endanger everyone else on the roads...including my family and possibly YOURS...because someone is too cheap or too lazy to do something correctly and safely. I have spent a bunch of years on the roads as a professional driver, and I have seen the carnage such crap can cause and the far reaching effects it can have. The OP already said that he knows he is over his capacity, but mister pot stirrer here jumps in with his very first...and only...post, and says "You should be fine and she is under your estimated weight anyhow. As long as you have good trailer brakes and keep it 55.". No...he is most certainly NOT under his estimated weight. He is over. Way over in fact, and will be a danger to himself and anyone else on the roads around him. And what does 55 have to do with anything? So the cops wont see him and pull him over for speeding, only to find that he is overloaded? Sure trailer brakes will be fine...right up to the point that they lock up, and then the boat and his lightweight tow vehicle swap ends. Ever seen a tractor trailer jack-knife? They have good trailer brakes too.

Harsh? No. I don't think so. I told him he had been lucky so far...which he apparently has. I asked if he was willing to take liability for the OPs actions...since he was telling him he would be fine. I stated the FACT that the OP already knows he is overweight. And I asked the *troll* if he knows the vehicle better than its owner does. If he does...he should speak up and state whatever facts that the owner is unaware of.
 

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Nope. Dont wanna be either. I dont think I was harsh at all. I think it is VERY irresponsible to endanger everyone else on the roads...including my family and possibly YOURS...because someone is too cheap or too lazy to do something correctly and safely. I have spent a bunch of years on the roads as a professional driver, and I have seen the carnage such crap can cause and the far reaching effects it can have. The OP already said that he knows he is over his capacity, but mister pot stirrer here jumps in with his very first...and only...post, and says "You should be fine and she is under your estimated weight anyhow. As long as you have good trailer brakes and keep it 55.". No...he is most certainly NOT under his estimated weight. He is over. Way over in fact, and will be a danger to himself and anyone else on the roads around him. And what does 55 have to do with anything? So the cops wont see him and pull him over for speeding, only to find that he is overloaded? Sure trailer brakes will be fine...right up to the point that they lock up, and then the boat and his lightweight tow vehicle swap ends. Ever seen a tractor trailer jack-knife? They have good trailer brakes too.

Harsh? No. I don't think so. I told him he had been lucky so far...which he apparently has. I asked if he was willing to take liability for the OPs actions...since he was telling him he would be fine. I stated the FACT that the OP already knows he is overweight. And I asked the *troll* if he knows the vehicle better than its owner does. If he does...he should speak up and state whatever facts that the owner is unaware of.

Good post.. I have to agree..

There is a fella on here.. http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=438952&highlight=totaled+truck

Bummer huh... He wasn't overloaded either...

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jmarty10

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Does anyone know where I can find accurate information regarding the actual boat weight?[/QUOTE]

Check the drivers side door where the sticker is that shows the inflation amount of your tires. If you have a tow package on that ford it will show the GVWR. That is the max that you can tow. My trailbalzer, 6 cylinder with a tow package is 6500 pounds. I tow and 18' bowrider, much smaller than your boat.
 

Ozdog

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10 miles .....that's a thought to try to make it seem rational. Towing trailers over th 5K range need vehicles designed for such HP / suspension and all.
To the guy with the ranger designed to tow 6K...I'd really like to see that.
 

Billiy

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my dakota is rated at 9k but even with duel axle trailer brakes. i dont like going over the 4 to 5k mark and a dakota has 2 more inches of brakes per wheel and much longer weel base you realy need to just call your local tow truck or rent full sized truck for the day. neather one one should be more than 100 bucks. and could save your life. i know back when i was running a wrecker full time we go 60 bucks to do a launch or a landing for thouse living on the local lake.
 

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No problem. The BOAT will pull the Ford just fine.
 

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As a ford tech I can tell you that if you have a v8 rig and a towing package you are still pushing the limits of the car. And yes I said car cause that's all the explorers were built to be. Your boat will be able to be moved by your car but the trans in those things don't take the heat of towing very well. Not to say people don't do it but the cars were built for leisure not work. Just my 2 cents.
 

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As a ford tech I can tell you that if you have a v8 rig and a towing package you are still pushing the limits of the car. And yes I said car cause that's all the explorers were built to be. Your boat will be able to be moved by your car but the trans in those things don't take the heat of towing very well. Not to say people don't do it but the cars were built for leisure not work. Just my 2 cents.
Heave these words, You might not cause an accident, but do find out how much a trany will cost you as you will most likely be doing that after first tow. I'm speaking from my own experiences, a 5K lesson, towing at or above your max rating will kill your car. Sorry for bad news but better to hear it here than from your mechanic. Good luck.
 
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