will I have to pay more?

[ManDarino]

I recently had $3700 worth of work done to my 2000 suzuki 50hp by a company near the bay area. Initially I took it in because it wasn't starting. The motor had been used at least three times a week prior to failing to start. The mechanic convinced me my cylinders were corroded with salt from excessive use. To me it ran super quiet and smooth. Either way I gave him the ok. After two months of very disrespectful service I finally got my boat back. He advised me in order to break in the new cylinders I would have to run it ten mins. at quarter throttle, next ten mins. at half throttle, and after that ten minutes three quarters throttle but never running it at full throttle for the first twenty hours of use. I did that exactly but when it came to the three quarters throttle time my motor shook rather violently and my heating alarm went crazy. I immediately turned off the motor let it sit for about ten seconds and restarted it. It the beep contnued and the overheat light flashed. Did it again and it seemed back to normal no beeps no flashin lights. Heres my question. Being that I have a monthe warranty on labor and one year on parts should I expect to pay more? I disscussed with the mechanic the idea of buying a new motor instead of dumpin all this money into a eleven year old motor he told me after this work I would have dam near a new motor. He has been so shady I almost know he will going for more money if I let him. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks in advance to any help.

 

[sschefer]

Re: will I have to pay more?

after this work I would have dam near a new motor

Yep and sounds like you'll need a new motor too. That's the worst thing I've heard from a mechanic in a long time. You had a motor with corrosion problems and he convinced you to rebuild it. Most likely (don't know for sure), the engine was bored so you probably have no room left to fix a problem cylinder now and it sounds like you may have one. Do what you need to in order to get that motor running right or take him to small claims court and see if you can get some of your money back.

You said you had it done in the Bay Area was that SF Bay area, if so I may be able to tell you more about the guy's reputation. I know a few of them and they know a few and so on. If his name is Gunter you just got screwed.

 

[ManDarino]

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I gotta admit it's not what I wanted to hear but the I halfway expected it at this point. I didn't want to put the name out there so people don't think I'm here just to bash but I will since you asked. It's voyager marine in san jose ca it on alviso st. I'm not the one to judge but in this case it might of saved me. It's a dump. I've done some research on him and found a couple complaints here and there but anything will help too.Thanks for replying so fast.

 

[ManDarino]

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I didnt reread what i wrote and cant seem to edit my previous post. The shop is actually in Alviso, CA and its on State street. Any info from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

 

[99yam40]

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What kind of corrosion did he say it had?
the cylinders should not have salt water getting into them so they should not have corrosion in them.
If the corrosion was in the cooling passages, that should not have any thing to do with not starting.

So a better description of what he said and what he actually did to the motor would help some.
Take it back to him and see what he says, the motor is not worth anything at this point if it will not run properly and you need to find out what is wrong with it before your warranty is out.
Is this a 4 stroke motor?

As long as you are logged in there should be an edit post button at the bottom of the post for you to click on

 

[tpenfield]

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How much does a brand new 50 HP motor cost? . . .

. . . The mechanic is a clever dude.

 

[ManDarino]

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My engine is a 2000 50hp 4-stroke. He told me it was salt corrosion from ten years saltwater use and that i did nothing wrong it always happens. To tpenfield i honestly dont know how much a new 50hp is but i dont think i understand what you mean "clever" ? Shouldn't nearly four thousand dollars be enough to fix a smaller motor like this to work perfectly like he told me it would or i'm i expecting too much?

 

[tpenfield]

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Yes, clever as in sly . . . I think he has taken adavntage. I'd be thinking about getting the money back versus spending more.

 

[ManDarino]

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I wish I could get my money back just wouldn't know where to begin. any recommendations on suzuki certified trustwothy mechanic on the central coast? I've yet to find a marine specialist I can trust.

 

[99yam40]

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My engine is a 2000 50hp 4-stroke. He told me it was salt corrosion from ten years saltwater use and that i did nothing wrong it always happens. To tpenfield i honestly dont know how much a new 50hp is but i dont think i understand what you mean "clever" ? Shouldn't nearly four thousand dollars be enough to fix a smaller motor like this to work perfectly like he told me it would or i'm i expecting too much?

we still have no idea what all was wrong with the motor and what was done to it for the $3700.
What all did he replace or repair on this thing.
If he replaced the power head or just head and exhaust plate with gaskets and one of them is leaking water into motor, then he should cover it under warranty.
But if it is overheating because of a water pump problem and he did not do anything on that then it probably will not.

like I said before it all depends on what was done and what is wrong know.

 

[sschefer]

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From what I can tell 3700.00 is about half the price a of new one give or take a hundred and depending on the options. My opinion is that you now have an overheating powerhead that won't even make it through break-in sitting on top of a mid and lower that have the same corrosion problems that the powerhead did and are 10 years 12 years old. Did you get talked into a bad deal... Yes. Are you committed to going further, no. Stop right here, make him fix the overheat problem at no cost or take him to small claims court and turn him into the BBB. Also call Suzuki and let them know what's happened. Anybody can work on any motor but if he's telling you he's a Suzuki certified mechanic and he's doing this type of business he's damaging Suzuki's reputation and they might take offense to that.

One the flip side, you seem like a good guy on this board but we don't know you from Adam and there may be a whole other legitimate side to the story. I don't think that's true just by what you've said here but I have to take it into consideration. I called around and the guys rep isn't all that bad. Napa Valley Marine would have been your better choice though.

 

[tpenfield]

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I wish I could get my money back just wouldn't know where to begin. any recommendations on suzuki certified trustwothy mechanic on the central coast? I've yet to find a marine specialist I can trust.

Yes, could get messy getting your money back. It might be the sort of thing to go to small claims court or "Judge Judy".