Wife insists on a manual transmission

jmmacky

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Re: Wife insists on a manual transmission

Second hand Audi A6 allroad. Love my manual one and it tows great (towing capacity of 4600 pounds); although they are prone to some suspension problems. Most cars in the UK are manual and nearly all that are used for towing over here have manual gearboxes apart from the newer luxury SUV type vehicles.
 

bigdee

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Second hand Audi A6 allroad. Love my manual one and it tows great (towing capacity of 4600 pounds); although they are prone to some suspension problems. Most cars in the UK are manual and nearly all that are used for towing over here have manual gearboxes apart from the newer luxury SUV type vehicles.

Us Americans should take a few lessons in towing from our European friends!
 

BobGinCO

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Manual shifts on boat ramps, mountain grades, and controlling kids is real hard on clutches.:)

Absolutely incorrect. Learn to use it, and a manual will go forever. We live at 9,000 feet elevation, and work around 5,000 feet, so our daily commutes are serious mountain driving. 90% of the vehicles owned by mountain residents are manuals - for a reason. You can control your speed up and down hills much better with a manual. I actually had a very hard time FINDING an F-250 with a manual!
 

gtochris

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I think and Xterra would fit the ticket perfectly other than being a car.

XTerra is the only manual trans vehicle still offered in that Class that can tow your load (that I can think of) , Jeep only offers a manual on the wrangler now.
 

Dawg'sLife93

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I forgot to about the FJ Cruiser. It is offered or atleast was offered with a manual trans.

If you are just using it for towing a camper every now and then, just buy her a nice daily that she likes and is happy with and then pick up a cheap beater 4x4 for towing the camper.
 
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2005 - 2012 Subaru outbacks have a 6 speed manual trans option with the H6 engine. (256 hp, 247 ft/lb torque) and are rated for 3,000 lbs. Finding one on the other hand... People don't get rid of subaru's, ever!

2011 Subaru Outback 3.6 R 4dr All-wheel Drive Wagon Specs (performance tab)

I'm a manual transmission lover and recently searched for new vehicles with manuals.

In the US, there is no such thing as an H6 Outback with a manual transmission from the factory. If there was the option of the H6 in 2012, I would've have ordered one then instead of my 2013 Outback 2.5 (manual trans of course).


The 4 cylinder Outbacks actually have a higher towing capacity then the 4 cylinder CVT Outbacks (2,700 pounds vs 2,000 pounds). It is to prevent overheating with the CVT's. With that being said, first gear in the manual trans is already questionably too high for the weight of an unloaded Outback. It would be an absolute beast on a steep boat ramp with a 2,700 pound boat (or any 1,000+ pound boat for that matter). The clutch would have to take a beating to get it done. Please don't take this to mean that I don't like my Outback. I actually like it a lot. It is an awesome all-around car but it would suck for as a 2,700 pound boat tow'er.

As others have said, a Jeep Wrangler can be had in a manual transmission. Unfortunately, the max listed towing capacity for new models is only 2,000 pounds. It seems to be less than the previous generations of Wranglers but I could be wrong.

Another option for a manual transmission tow vehicle would be a Toyota Tacoma. The max towing capacity of the 4.0 V-6 with manual trans is 3,500 pounds, so it is doable for you but not by much.

Also from Toyota is the FJ Cruiser with a manual. It would be a little more money than the Taco but it can tow up to 5,000 pounds. Unfortunately, the FJ has the love it or hate it look.

Out of these options, the FJ would probably suit your needs the best (of course, this is just based on towing capacities with manual transmissions).

Finally, you could spend a fortune and get a Dodge 2500 or 3500 diesel with a manual transmission, but that would be extreme overkill for your towing needs.

Edited to Add: I forgot about the Xterra in my research. It may or may not suit your needs, I don't know. I personally would never buy a Nissan because I strongly disagree with their engineering on their cars (absolute beasts to fix). I always figured some of their worthless engineering would transfer over into their pickups and SUV's but I could be wrong.
 

bigdee

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Another option for a manual transmission tow vehicle would be a Toyota Tacoma. The max towing capacity of the 4.0 V-6 with manual trans is 3,500 pounds, so it is doable for you but not by much.

That is the recommended rating...it is dumbed down a little for U.S. drivers.
 

Captain Caveman

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BTW. 99% of all manuals produced, tow more that their automatic counterparts. You don't have the heat issue with a manual, like a auto.
Ford Rangers were part of the 1%. My 2007 4L v6 automatic could tow either 1,000 or 1,500lbs more than my 2006 4L v6 5-speed.
 

coolbri70

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I tow my boat with a 97 Ford Explorer, 4.0 with 5 speed. hard to find though, most are automatics, weak ones. not sure if the newer ones have that option:confused:
 

F14CRAZY

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4 door Wranglers are rated for 3500 lbs
 

QC

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Unless you're in a high end sports car their response time sucks.
Maybe this is high end, but try a twin clutch VW GTI before you give up. I am not talking about towing here, but all of you who love manuals need to try one. I finally admit there is something better than a manual. And the Audi CVTs with an automated manual clutch (no torque converter) are pretty dern good too.

Speaking of towing . . . the new Volvo I-Shift fully automatic 12 speed is flipping miraculous ;)
 

smokeonthewater

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the newer bmw m-3's with the auto clutch manual trans are pretty amazing too but probably not for towing

dead serious about the x5 tho... I am a recent convert to a bmw fan.... can be bought fairly cheap and are just flippin great to drive...
 

F14CRAZY

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BMW no longer makes X5's with manual transmissions
 

mpsyamaha

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I vote nissan xterra... i have had a couple and they are rock solid, and tow like a champ. The 2005 and newer ones are powerful, smooth, and maneuverable for daily driving and towing. Only downside is that with the power comes the not so great gas mileage.
 

TwoRivers

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I vote for the Cadillac CTS V-Sport Wagon 556hp rear wheel drive six speed.
Hook the Titan, boat and camper to it, ride together and arrive refreshed and in style.
 

superbenk

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I vote for the Cadillac CTS V-Sport Wagon 556hp rear wheel drive six speed.
Hook the Titan, boat and camper to it, ride together and arrive refreshed and in style.

Hah! Being a Cadillac does it only go in one direction - Florida? :)
 

mrdancer

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Looks like your best bet would be a Toyota or Nissan truck/SUV. As alluded to earlier, a manual tranny in these larger vehicles is a lot different than the slick little manuals in smaller cars.

I agree that a manual tranny will easily outlast an auto tranny if driven properly. Problem is, many people don't know how to drive a manual properly, and that is why vehicle mfrs. recommend auto trannies for towing (less chance to burn up a clutch). I've never had a problem pulling a boat up the ramp with a manual tranny (tip for beginners: if you're not too good with heel/toeing the brake/gas, learn to use the emergency brake and gently let it out while gently releasing the clutch).

My dad bought a Dodge 3/4-ton for the farm back in 1987. It had the 360-4V, 4wd and four-speed manual. That truck is now 26 years old and has pulled countless loaded horse trailers over and through the hills and mud, and still pulls just fine on the original clutch. Probably doesn't hurt that it has 4.10 gears :D . I believe Dodge is the only full-size pickup that still offers a stick. The others have gone to all automatic. Another case of vehicle mfrs. giving us what THEY think we want.

Btw, try finding a compact utility tractor that still offers a manual tranny. I think Kubota is about the only one left. I think the reason is most CUTs are purchased by hobby farmers who don't want or or don't know how to use a manual transmission, so the CUT mfrs are simplifying their inventories. While it is true that a hydro tranny is more convenient for stop-n-go applications like using a mower or loader, a manual tranny tractor is still the best option for speed-critical applications, like putting down herbicides or fertilizer with careful calibration.
 

airdvr1227

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I'm thhinking there will be a lot of 5-7 year old Jeep models cheap very soon:laugh:
 
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