Why does simply being elected...

Vlad D Impeller

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Originally posted by JasonJ:<br /> If I was getting a heart transplant, I am fairly sure I would probably trust a doctor before I would trust a janitor...
The insurance companies will tell you who to trust :eek: <br />checkout the last healthcare bill that passed through congress and the whitehouse :rolleyes:
 

rodbolt

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hahahah nope, rodbolt either does not have the intelligence to run for public office or enough intelligence not to. depends on who ya talk to :) <br /><br /><br /> ya got a link to that last healtcare bill? I heard some about it from friend that is having issues with his bone cancer treatments and the fact that he cant afford it even with insurance. his attorney has actually disscused him divorcing his wife of 27 years and divesting himself of all his assets and going on the public dole. its coming down to doing it that way or losing his house and property for medical treatments.<br /> not bad for such a great nation.
 

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> not bad for such a great nation.
Careful. This is one MAJOR issue. We should really be talking to our friends in Canada and the UK before we do something really stupid with Healthcare. I don't know enough to really even comment, I just know that we will probably make the situation worse if we play with it . . . ;)
 

rodbolt

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queitcat<br /> I would in no way advocate cradle to grave medical like some counties have, I would advocate some type of safty net for those with things like the bone cancer my friend has, the chemo and the meds are eating about 14 thousand a week. his insurance is about tapped. do we let him die cause he cant pay ?<br /> thats what i was referencing. <br /> seems the govt can come up with ways to spend billions overseas like there was no end to it yet here at home elderly are not taking meds or cutting pills in half simply cause they cant pay for it.<br />and for a nation as great as ours its a shame.<br /> but I do agree with you, seems the govt can take a simple thing and make a 600 page document out of it that will create a whole new branch of lawyers to figgue out.
 

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Hey Rodbolt,<br /><br />I was not a riflemen in the service. I was a SW3 (Steelworker 3rd class)with the Navy Seabees. everyone had to qualify marksman @ 200 yards. Nothing compared to the USMC. and Army soldiers. I intially inlisted as a HT but was rejected due to partial color blindness.
after your tour in the military as a rifleman I guess you will have to agree we did not use economy of force with this ill planned war. otherwise after almost 3 years of it we would have less boots in the sand rather than more.seems some of the officers and planners with the pentagon and the joint chiefs of staff actually wanted a minimum initial troop strength of 300-350 thousand. they got sacked.<br />seems we went in with only about 110 thousand and most were poorly equiped or had the wrong equipment for the conditions.<br />was good for iraqi scrap iron prices and welders though.
I agree with you on that. But did they get sacked due to a Bush veto or the congress. I remember viagly (my spelling is fleeting me :confused: ) that the emergency budget request by Bush was upheld quite a while by congress? About the troop numbers, I would be lying if I said I had any idea of the correct # beforehand without consulting an expert. In the field I was trained fight and establish a perimeter to support the marines ahead. As well as building temperary air strips, bridges and bases. I was not trained in theater planning and tactics. So, I would only be guessing about that in the beginning.
 

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Hey Rodbolt<br /> Small world I was an FC as well and quall'd on many of the same things as you. I was a Sea sparrow tech but was also watch qualled on ciws, harpoon , harpoon missle handler,tomahawk (console only) and very close to esws. Also at sea rescue and assist in port fire party and security force ( 12ga. .45 and m-14)
 

rodbolt

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seachickens :) :) thats what they were.<br /> then you know what CIWS stands for and you know I got a lot of practicle hands on in the repair area :) :) <br /> I had to quall for ships security, also qualed on the 12ga,m14,45,m-30. mk40( i think) grenade launcher, shotline fireing, 50 cal browning, ordanance handling and magazine systems maint.<br /> got many sessions with the marines at little creek on security and chem warfare.<br /> while i never trained in tactical infantry placements i have studied it since elementary school.<br /> its a very intersting study, however it also taught me that even with the best planning and equipment you still must be lucky.<br />however planning and supieroir fire power will greatly assist if coupled with a dominating field force.<br /> seems our current crop of administration folks, while well educated, forgot the lessons or ignored them for political expediency and our young folks are paying the price. <br /> you would figgure the events as recent as somalia in 2001 or so would be fresh enough to remind them but apperently it has not.<br /> but its nice to see a fellow FC.<br /> <br /> getteysburg is a classic example of an accidental battle that lee should have won but lost the intel and the troop strength superiorty. he was lost on the firepower issue. <br />but throughout history the only way to conquer is to occupy, the only way to win a battle is by overwhelming your opponent. aint no other way. you can have all the whizbang weapons in the world but if you cannot put boots on the ground you lose. period.<br /> its a historical fact to conquer you must occupy and if you leave the area reverts to pre conquer politics.<br /> oddjob<br /> the folks that got sacked were sacked by Bush, and while Colin powell was technically not sacked he was removed by bush to a non person status and he quietly resigned.<br /> the rest were either transferred or fired if they dissagreed with the plan as written by Rumsfeld,Cheney,Rice and Bush.<br /> remember rummy promised a 6 week war financed by Iraqi oil. problem is there were insuffient troops on the ground at the initial invasion and the oil belongs to the Iraqis and they can sell or not sell as they see fit. <br /> you have to remember we were not invited there.<br />not to mention all the inadequate and poorly maintained equipment used at first.<br /> but most of that equipment now is at its service life expectancy. <br /> the military analyst sites I look at indicate another 12 to 18 months of sustainability and its either leave or replace all of it.<br /> as a seebee I know you understand service life on equipoment and its maintenance.<br /> even rifles have a service life.<br /> most artilley and tank weapons do as well. after so many rounds and bore erosion measurements its done.
 

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To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. - THEODORE ROOSEVELT<br /><br />Full quote:<br /><br />The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly as necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else. - THEODORE ROOSEVELT
 

rodbolt

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a good speech, wish it were actual practice.
 

Newportme

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Sea chickens come on now we dont fire thousands of rounds per minute but our "bullets" are much bigger<br />:^)
 

rodbolt

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but its not as cool to stand on the deck and watch a chicken launch as it is to stand beside the CIWS on a towed target run :) .<br /> but I am sure you know what I am talking about when I say quite often whizbang weapons fail to whiz or bang far more often than is let on :) :) .<br /> thats why CIWS stands for Captian It Wont Shoot.<br /> wish I had a jackson for every gun system no go lamp I ever saw.
 
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