Which boat? Brit in Canada ..

[jonoforo]

Hi all
My first post .
I am on hols in the Thousand islands and keep a sweet 19’ Springbok with the Johnson 110 HP v4 2 stroke on it from the late eighties or so , I think . I can put some bikes in it and scoot to Gananoque or Kingston and do the shopping .
Now I am after a bigger , faster and more sea kindly boat that will carry more passengers.
I run a Glastron SX175 with the 4.3 gl volvo in England for skiing and tubing and it’s about right for that .
I think I need a 20’ bow rider to get 8 or 9 maybe people in and that will take the chop in the St. Lawrence .
The choices locally right now seem to be :
2001 SeaRay Select with 5.0 merc. Very nice boat , well looked after but can see it’s 20 years old . A skeg protecter on it , for a reason perhaps ? They want CAD 28000 , very nice trailer but I don’t need a very nice trailer ( only needs a half a mile to launch) .
A 2004 Crownline , bellows replaced 2014 , stains of some sort on the seats but looks ok but would need a specialist to fix those seats for CAD 24000 , maybe less .
And a 2009 Glastron 205 with the 5.0 merc. Engine hours show 86 and I could believe it , very clean and new looking engine and compartment and sterndrive . But left sitting too long ?
Some osmosis bubbless tho.., would be left in the water for three months a year … is this a concern ( in sailing boats I would stay 60nm away )
probably could get for CAD 24500 or so. I am a bit of a sucker for low miles / hours/later year . Am I am actual sucker ?

Where are your heads at on this ?

Is the SeaRay a boat that would hold its value ? It is a better boat you can tell, just rather too old maybe ? But then the marina say they know the guy who had it ( he died alas) , some other locals says he was a careful type …

Photo is of the Glastron hull

Thanks for any tuppences worth in advance

 

[roscoe]

. ""I think I need a 20’ bow rider to get 8 or 9 maybe people in. ""

I think you're gonna need a bigger boat.
22-24' boats provide much more space.
I was out on a 20' ranger last weekend, and although its looks huge and roomy, I wouldn't want more than 5-6 people on board.
Same with my buds 20+ bayliner, and neighbor's four wins.

How big is the sea ray ?

How big is the crownlike ? what engine ?

Anything that has a 5l is kind of a dog, no torque, whether its a Camaro, a chevy van, or a boat, especially once you start adding 6, 8, or 9 people.

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[Scott Danforth]

the 2001 searay is most likely either the 190 or 210. no way to get 8 or 9 people in the boat unless you stack them. Price is way too high for the asking. the hull also has a shallow deadrise, so in chop the ride would suck. really need to see what the owner of the boat is smoking and see if he/she will share. the boat is not worth anything more than $10k

stay away from the hull with blisters

agree with roscoe. if you need to get 8-9 people on board you need a people hauling boat. you will need to be bigger than 20 feet.

Now I am after a bigger , faster and more sea kindly boat that will carry more passengers...........................................................I think I need a 20’ bow rider to get 8 or 9 maybe people in and that will take the chop in the St. Lawrence ...........................................................................I am a bit of a sucker for low miles / hours/later year

you are looking at 24 feet or more, and something with a 23 degree deadrise.

if you want faster, you want more motor than a 5.0

here is the reality of boats with low hours
boat is bought, used for 30 hours in year one. about 25 hours in year 2, maybe 20 hours in
year 3...... sits for 15 years and is neglected. then pulled out of what ever hole its in maybe used twice and sold with a bunch of systems on it that died while the boat sat.

if the boat is used on average. its 20 hours per year. a boat that is enjoyed is 50 hours per year.

a properly maintained motor and drive will last 5000 hours or more.

you want a 20 year old boat with 700-1500 hours on it. that means the boat was used, maintained, and cared for.

however for those prices, you can find a 10 year old boat with a lot less headaches.

 

[jonoforo]

I’d only have large numbers of persons on board rarely and for a tour or journey to a restaurant , some of them kids . So yes it would be cramped and awkward but tolerable .

The SeaRay has a really nice trailer which I think makes the seller feel it’s worth more. I think also that there is currently a shortage of larger engine boats around for the reasons given . Many smaller boats with the 3.0L around , so perhaps those that are available are those people didn’t want to buy earlier in the season . So these are the dregs …

I’ll start looking at some others I think, thanks a for the advice.

 

[Lou C]

I have a 20’ Four Winns & I would not put more than 4-5 people in it. 8/9 people would be falling over each other!
For rough water I’m not really a fan of open bow boats. I don’t they are that safe in rough water and even so called “self bailing” boats have small drains & only a single bilge pump. For my next boat I want a walk around style even though the boat companies don’t favor them I feel they are much safer….