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ratdude747

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Use a kill switch.
My nephew and I were in Minnesota many years back. From the kitchen in their family cabin, we saw a boat doing circles across the lake. Thought it was kids fooling around. When we came back in later in the evening, we learned that a lady had been tossed from the boat and was run over by it as it went in circles.
My boat is grandfathered (1976 Starcraft Montego). The helm is somewhat crowded-in at least.

Wouldn't be hard to retrofit (ground the tach signal the same way the shift interlock kills the engine) but I've always heard not to since legally it'd be a one-way change.
 

rolmops

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Inform somebody that you go fishing and agree upon a time that you will call when you are back. If you don't call they will inform the authorities.
Get an MMSI number.
 

Mc Tool

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Inform somebody that you go fishing and agree upon a time that you will call when you are back. If you don't call they will inform the authorities.
Get an MMSI number.
Yep ,I either tell someone or leave a note whenever I leave the house ( now ) to adventure outdoors ,being disabled I rely on a quad to go anywhere around my beat ( farm land and local river ) about 10km in any direction .
I only have had to be "rescued" once .......and that is what led to the note leaving because I was stranded mid river for over 8 hrs while neighbours looked for me when I didnt get home.
A real pita for all involved .🙂
 

TheGM1217

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Been boating for over 40 yrs. just in the last two year, me and the captain have religiously started using the lanyard. Can't fathom the thought of either one of us being thrown out or falling out of boat while under way. I guess we are getting more responsible in our later years.
 

airshot

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Do I recomend the lanyard...YES....do I always use it...no...yes I should and try to remember but often get to my fishing spot before I think of it. Having been a boat owner for well over 60 years and consider my self extra carefull. Never in those years have I even come close to being tossed overboard ! I don't / never have taken careless chances that might get me tossed out ! Is this an excuse to not wear it.....no it is not, they should be used whenver your boat is underway. Mabey because I have never had a close call, lets my guard down, and yes I am working to try and remember to use it regularly. To be honest, I have witnessed more folks having their boat sink from rotten wood and the transom ripping away than being tossed out of a boat. Perhaps we should also encourage solid structure on old glasses to keep accidents low.
 

dingbat

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Have VHF with Class D DSC with MMSI number on top of normally sharing my location (iPhone) with Mrs. Dingbat and adult children.

Enclosed cabin with wireless overboard protection
 

roscoe

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The kill switch on my new motor is also the stop switch.
You have to pull the lanyard to stop the engine.
Makes it pretty hard to forget, because you have to reconnect the lanyard to start the engine.
 

Mc Tool

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The kill switch on my new motor is also the stop switch.
You have to pull the lanyard to stop the engine.
Makes it pretty hard to forget, because you have to reconnect the lanyard to start the engine.
Have you tried leaving the lanyard on the switch and just press the switch in ........usually works 🙂
 

Mc Tool

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Yep ,I either tell someone or leave a note whenever I leave the house ( now ) to adventure outdoors ,being disabled I rely on a quad to go anywhere around my beat ( farm land and local river ) about 10km in any direction .
I only have had to be "rescued" once .......and that is what led to the note leaving because I was stranded mid river for over 8 hrs while neighbours looked for me when I didnt get home.
A real pita for all involved .🙂
🤬 Jinxed it , damn thing crapped out right at my gate .......no spark 💩
 

airshot

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I see my GPS has a MOB button....so if I get tossed out will that button call and tell someone?? LOL....
 

Mc Tool

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I see my GPS has a MOB button....so if I get tossed out will that button call and tell someone?? LOL....
No ,but as long as you have the presence of mind to push that button on your way over the side it will tell your loved ones exactly where to look for your body .😂😂[/QUOTE]
 
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Pmt133

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When I redid the boat I was going to rerig the control box to one with a kill switch. I just couldn't find one with an esthetic that fit with everything else. And it is still buttery smooth so I don't really see the need to bother. I too have never had a close call but an extra layer of safety is just that.
 

bakerjw

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Most of us have never had a close call which leads to complacency. Complacency harms or kills nearly every time.
 

dingbat

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Makes it pretty hard to forget, because you have to reconnect the lanyard to start the engine.
Very surprised they would do that for safety considerations. My boat restarts without for clip for safety reasons.

There are a lot of situations where losing power could turn into a disaster. Imagine getting tangle up in your lanyard and it breaks or goes overboard. Now what….as your quickly drifting downstream towards the Falls
 

Jeff J

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Some of the I/Os I have seen have a toggle switch. The lanyard will flip the switch to off if used otherwise it causes problems because people bump the switch and accidentally strand themselves. All of the outboards I have dealt with do one of 2 things without the lanyard. They either crank without starting or are completely dead.
 

Lpgc

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I electrically disconnected my lanyard switch because it's broken, the engine ignition wiring (purple wire) was routed through it but it was broken in a way which made it have high electrical resistance which caused a voltage drop to the ignition coil.

When I bought the boat I was given a video by the previous owner showing a guy from a marina demonstrating the engine start procedure.. He turned the ignition on then flicked an auxilliary switch on the dash before turning the key to crank it then flicked the auxilliary switch back to off. At first I thought someone must've fitted some type of basic immobiliser but after checking the wiring I found the auxilliary switch simply bypassed the igniton key! The marina guy was showing the po how to bypass the ignition and lanyard kill switch using the auxilliary switch when starting the engine then flicking the auxilliary switch back to off again so the lanyard kill would work and the engine would switch off when you turned the ignition off.
There was no immobiliser, I realised that it wouldn't start unless the auxilliary switch was used because before the alternator was charging the voltage drop to the coil saw the coil getting too low voltage to create strong enough sparks for the engine to run, the only reason it continued to run with the auxilliary switch turned off after starting the engine was because with the engine running battery voltage was high enough to allow the coil to work good enough despite the voltage drop.

After bypassing the lanyard kill switch I fitted an ignition relay on the engine itself, so power to the ignition coil is switched by the relay and the relay is switched by the purple wire from the dash/helm. With this setup instead of all the power for the coil running from the battery up to the helm and back to the coil it runs straight from the battery to the coil, there's only the very small electrical current needed to switch the relay running through the ignition wiring/helm... The small current needed to switch the relay doesn't cause a voltage drop so I could reconnect the lanyard kill switch and it'd switch the relay and as long as the relay switeches the coil gets full battery voltage anyway. But the best fix would be to keep the relay setup, fix the lanyard kill switch, reconnect the lanyard kill switch and maybe disconnect the auxilliary switch ignition bypass.

I have so far left the auxilliary switch wired as an ignition bypass mostly because I never got around to disconnecting it... but also because I think it could be an advantage if I ever accidentally dropped the ignition key over the side. Supposed to need a key to make the engine run, an anti-theft device, but anyone who knows a bit about what they're doing could still nick the boat without the key just by connecting a couple of wires on the engine anyway and a thief wouldn't know that the auxilliary switch is wired as an ignition bypass. If a thief knew what they were doing they could start and use the boat without a key by joining a few wires on the engine to make the ignition then touch a couple of wires together to crank and start it, if they didn't know what they were doing then even if they knew about the auxilliary switch bypass they couldn't start the engine because they couldn't crank it without a key.

When there's a few adults on the boat there probably isn't a big safety advantage to using a kill lanyard because if the driver fell overboard the other people could take over the driving and pick them up. But I was once on the boat by myself doing around 30knots, hit a wave and found myself feet off the floor floating in mid air just holding the steering wheel lol... The lanyard kill would've been a big plus if I'd fallen overboard instead of just having a feet off the floor moment when I was alone on the boat.
 
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