What type fuel hose?

[flyingscott]

I suspect a lot of posters here have never had to deal with an Insurance Company when a boat has a fire... If any part that needs USCG Cert, doesn't have it, kiss your claim goodbye

How is this hose not compliant?

High Temperature Fuel Injection Hose - The Rubber Company

therubbercompany.com

 

[guy48065]

OP didn't post enough information about his boat to make the proper recommendation. Is the boat an inboard or an outboard? Is there any machinery in a common location as the fuel lines?

Does a trolling motor or a baitcast reel qualify as "machinery"?

Lol

 

[guy48065]

I suspect a lot of posters here have never had to deal with an Insurance Company when a boat has a fire... If any part that needs USCG Cert, doesn't have it, kiss your claim goodbye

I hate to go even further into the weeds in my thread but...
Is boat insurance for personal use really that different than auto or home insurance? Auto & home definitely covers diy foolishness, but they might not if you pay someone else who takes short-cuts.

 

[flyingscott]

Here is the problem with the insurance statement. People on here have advocated for overpowering boats. But now people take issue with a fuel line.

 

[tphoyt]

I hear there Flyingscott.
Ever time I read a post that has potentially dangerous info I grit my teeth.
Personally I would rather save somewhere else and get a quality fuel line. Both for safety and future problems with internal deterioration of a lot of the stuff that sold these days.

 

[jimmbo]

I overpowered a few Boats, but I always informed the Insurance Company that, in Writing and also had them Acknowledge they were accepting that, in Writing.

 

[flyingscott]

I overpowered a few Boats, but I always informed the Insurance Company that, in Writing and also had them Acknowledge they were accepting that, in Writing.

Did you inform the other boaters of your potentially dangerous situation? Or your passengers. I am out that is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Does the coast guard care if your insurance company cares.

 

[jimmbo]

Did you inform the other boaters of your potentially dangerous situation? Or your passengers. I am out that is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Does the coast guard care if your insurance company cares.

Laws are different in my Country, it actually has no regulations against putting an Engine of more Horsepower.
Dealers have rigged boats rated for 90hp, with 200hp.

 

[flyingscott]

Your statement is still ridiculous even more so now. But you concern yourself over gas line and ignore the elephant in the room.

 

[jimmbo]

Your statement is still ridiculous even more so now. But you concern yourself over gas line and ignore the elephant in the room.

Gee, My car(s) have more than enough Power to exceed the Speed limit by very wide Margin(one even has a Speedometer that goes up to 260mph), but rarely if ever is that power drawn upon

I can certainly Ignore you

 

[guy48065]

Well I can see nobody here has anything to say about urethane fuel lines.

 

[flyingscott]

If you are talking the yellow Tygon line. I found it gets hard over time

 

[flyingscott]

Gee, My car(s) have more than enough Power to exceed the Speed limit by very wide Margin(one even has a Speedometer that goes up to 260mph), but rarely if ever is that power drawn upon

I can certainly Ignore you

So overpowering good?
Fuel line bad?
Which of these statements is more ridiculous?

 

[JustJason]

Does a trolling motor or a baitcast reel qualify as "machinery"?

Lol

No it does not. Machinery would be something that burns a fuel (generator, inboard engine)

For an outboard-powered boat the requirement is the fuel hose you use must say SAE J1527 on it. If it says that on the hose you are good to go, if not, then the hose is not compliant.

Others have said to use A1-15. While that is not technically incorrect by any means you may find A1-15 to be a little bulky or stiff if your application. You can certainly use B1-15 in its place, which will be less bulky and more flexible. Without machinery, you do not have to worry about the fuel line passing the burn test, which is the difference between A1 and B1 fuel lines. A1 will pass the 2-minute burn test, and B1 will not. Hence the question about machinery.

 

[JustJason]

How is this hose not compliant?

High Temperature Fuel Injection Hose - The Rubber Company

therubbercompany.com

See above. That hose is rated SAE J90. Marine fuel line must be rated SAE J1527 to be compliant.

 

[JustJason]

Laws are different in my Country, it actually has no regulations against putting an Engine of more Horsepower.
Dealers have rigged boats rated for 90hp, with 200hp.

I don't know anything about canukistan but in the US the USCG has stability test and floatation requirements for recreational small craft. For example, to much power can cause to much heeling at speed, causing the aft gunnels to go underwater. To much weight will affect the cockpit drain system. All recreational vessels 20 feet and longer are required to have self-draining cockpits. To much power/weight will affect the cockpit drain system, potentially rendering it useless.

 

[guy48065]

For an outboard-powered boat the requirement is the fuel hose you use must say SAE J1527 on it.

My question (way back there...) was about fuel lines under the cowl.

 

[JustJason]

My question (way back there...) was about fuel lines under the cowl.

I didn't realize you were talking about the hose under the cowl. Standards do not apply to the hoses on the engine itself. Usually the dealers simply sell the fuel line in rolls by the foot. Mercury purchased BRP, so your best bet is to go to a mercury dealer and get as much fuel line as you need in the correct diameter for your engine.

 

[flyingscott]

I didn't realize you were talking about the hose under the cowl. Standards do not apply to the hoses on the engine itself. Usually the dealers simply sell the fuel line in rolls by the foot. Mercury purchased BRP, so your best bet is to go to a mercury dealer and get as much fuel line as you need in the correct diameter for your engine.

Mercury DID not purchase BRP.

 

[flyingscott]

This line has your rating and I wouldn't use it on jimmbos overpowered boat.

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-universal-outboard-fuel-line-assembly?ds_e=GOOGLE&ds_c=Cabelas%7CShopping%7CPMax%7CProprietary%7CGeneral%7CNAud%7CNVol%7CNMT&&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoK2mBhDzARIsADGbjerf28eSXiAh3_1iAY5wg2OXxV_5l123ZilcujobhvnUnddgscKbD1gaAuNlEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds