water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

scornett

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i recently bought a 1987 sunbird w/ 3.0 mercruiser inboard/outboard, i checked oil when i bought it and it looked good. next weekend took to lake and figured out the impeller in the leg was not working properly. the engine was starving for water. i ran boat for approxiamtely 2 mins in lake and put back on the trailer within the 2 mins got to about 200 degrees. i checked oil and it was milky. i no this is a sign of cracked block or blow head gasket . what i dont understand is if the impeller wasnot letting water in the engine then how does water mix with the oil . im really confused if i should replace head gasket first or look for a new motor where does water ienter the motor other than the sea pump ? what all should i check before looking for a motor
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

Most water in the oil comes from the riser or manifold.
It leaks into the manifold and then thru the valves.
If your motor sat for any length of time the oil could have been in there all along.Rain water could have gotten in through the flame arrestor and it was setting in there.
When it started it just mixed the water and oil together.
Look at both.J
 

scornett

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Re: water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

so even with the engine running in the lake without the impeller in the foot working properly tha water enters through another passage that may be the risers if this is the case i need to replace them?
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

Do a compression test to check the head gasket.
Look at the manifold to see if there is rust in the combustion area.
Replace the impeller.Change the oil.Then start it again and run it and see if it happens again.
If it does it again then I'd think it was the riser/manifold.J
 

scornett

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Re: water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

i did a compression test and have 120 in every cylinder with no water shooting out sark plug holes. i took of intake manifold and found a lil water mark coming out of the ports that are connected to carb not to bad though. i also poured water trough cooling system on manifold with riser attached to see how flow was and check for cracks. when i pulled the rise and got to ypipe noticed exhaust shutter had either melted and fell in the leg or is now gone this is where i think my water was coming in because i was running on a trailer kinda at an angle where the back of boat was probably in more water than normal . ive heared this will get water in your oil but im not sure iin my case i bought the boat after it was sitting for two years and it also was started in the lake without a spark plug wire on if that makes a diffrence. ive bught a water impeller kit a exhaust shutter a intake gasket and riser gasket i also bought a thermostat im hoping this will cure the problem any suggestions
 

AdellAdam

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Re: water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

there's a very good chance that your block is cracked. A water leak into a manifold will not get your oil milky. The piston rings are designed to seal and keep anything from getting past. While some stuff gets past, you would not get enough water past in 2 minutes to cause any milk in the oil. If you got that much water into your cylinders you would hydro-lock. If the boat sat for 2 years in a freezing temperatrue someone probably didn't winterize it properly and that's where your crack is from. The reason that a crack can cause over heating is your thermostat is suppose to maintain pressure on the cooling system. When you lose pressure, you also lose the ability to cool. The water turns to steam and steam does not absorb heat well. The pressure that is suppose to be in the system prevents that from happening. Take off the side lifter cover and look for a crack there. That's usually where it will crack, but it could crack in other places. Look down into the cylinders with a boroscope (if you can get one) and look for any heavy discoloration. The head gasket is probably fine. If you only ran it for 2 minutes, the gasket couldn't let much water past. If there's water in your oil the impeller is working. You didn't over heat it. 200 is stil okay. Once you get to about 220 is when the problems start.

Now that there's water in the oil, you might end up with some bad bearings, but you might be lucky and they'll be okay. Definitely change the oil filter once you fix the leak and i would run some trans fluid through the system before you start it up. To do that, take your distrubutor out (make sure to mark it for reinstalling it!!) and get a long flat blade attatchment for an electric or cordless dirll. Fill your oil pan with trans fluid and put a new oil filter on. Then using the drill spin the oil pump drive the same direction the distributor would spin it (mine goes CCW). The trans fluid will clean the system out.

Hope this helps.

P.S.-A leaking manifold is a cause for rusty cylinders, spark plugs, and valves. NOT a cause for water in the oil. Any water in the cylinder would either evaporate, cause the engine to sputter, or hydro-lock the pistons. Depending on how much water gets in. The piston rings seal and don't let much air past, water would have a harder time getting past. Even if water got in the cylinder and sat there, it would still leak very very slowly. I've had coolant sit in a cylinder and not leak past at all.
 

KJSmitty

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Re: water in oil on 3.0 mercruiser

As mentioned above, could have just been some residual water/condensation in the oil - if it sat that long etc..

Yes the block or risers could be bad, but.....

Start with the easy/cheap items!

Fix the impeller issue, change the oil and filter and start her in the water...

Go from there.
 
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