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[12Footer]

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Originally posted by David L. Moore:<br /> I am so glad that it is just your opinion 12footer. Because it's so full of c**p. Socialist? isn't socialist where the government is so expansive because it takes care of everything for everyone? If I am not misunderstanding you, then if "They ... pay the price instead of the buisness." then isn't that the socialist attitude?

<br />"They" would be the governemnt of Mary land, thus, the people of the state. In a representative replublic (a form of government that even allows for socialism via popular vote from it's citizenry), such socialist forms of "Robyn Hood" funding schemes are popular in places like Maryland, California,and Maine. They can exist, and if the individual wants their state to provide their toilet paper, so be it. Let them do so without Wallyworld and me.<br />In the end, it is Wally's deicision to make, not Maryland politicians. <br />I was just stating my opinion, and what I would do given the position of "CEO/Wallyworld". <br /><br />

Originally posted by David L. Moore:<br />Maryland passed this issue to force Walmart to provide some type of health benefits for it's worker, with Walmart as it's major focus, then YES it's wrong, IMHO. But otherwise, someone has to pay for healthcare, and as it is currently with Walmart, it is you and me through our taxes. And was pointed out in the past WW bashing threads, we also pay for the low wages through welfare, medicaid, various accounts default and other unpaid costs that we all then get to pay through higher prices and higher taxes.

<br />No buisness should be dictated to by the govermnment, unless it is harmfull in any way to anyone. Call it what you will, but personally, i see what Maryland has "forced" Wallyworld into the position of, as no less a form of wealth redistribution, AKA socialism. Words do mean things.<br /><br />They have the right, as does Walmart, to tell them to stick it, and pull-out to friendlier states.<br />If the employees are not happy with their benefits package, they should not settle for them, and find employment elsewhere. After all, I did (literally, too).<br /><br />

Originally posted by David L. Moore:<br /><br />So for once, get off your high-horse, see the reality and constructively use what gray matter you have, which evidently is sufficient, just misused.<br /><br />As for the post's question, it will be curious to see if the requirement sticks. Baby bush has aided Walmart in it's quest to crush any union attempts and I suspect he will side with corporate money again, as opposed to protecting the interests and Constitutional rights of the American people.

I'll get off my high horse when and where i please, as allways. The state has yet to assemble a posse to "force" me out of the saddle.So until then, deal with it.<br /><br />Baby Bush has not done a single thing for wallmart at all. He has not "stepped-in" to "force" them to do anything iether,(or against wallmart). Perhaps, that is what you're seeing as the alleged "aid"? Interesting that you would appear to support the fed to step-in, to force them if the state fails? <br /><br />Let the free market decide. <br /><br />A little sidenote:I seldom go into the wallmart two miles down the road from me. I don't like the crowds, the parking lot, the time it takes to pick up a dozen eggs,or the layout of the store in general. They have lost much potential profits from me, by not catering to my personal shoppng preferences at the expense of their bulk sales. Trust me tho -- they won't miss it!<br />And this too, is as it should be.

 

[heycods]

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To waterone , Elmer and 12 footer. YEA what Yall said. thats the points I was trying to get across. well said. ATT-a-BOY .

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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As a small business owner, Yea, what waterone1 said.<br /><br />Sidenote: In the paper this morning that Kentucky is following suit like Maryland did and has a bill up for vote for the same thing.

 

[Kenneth Brown]

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For you legitimate business owners I appluad you. You work long hard hours for little relief. Your mind had to be half crazy to even think about what your doing, no sane person would attampt it. My dad ran a garage for several years. Thats where I learned my mechanic'in skills. He ended up having to shut down. Enviro regs and the equipment needed to comply was too great. He could have stayed open and chanced it but it wasn't worth it. SBO's with a good heart are the best this country has to offer.<br /><br /><br />For those of you who sale a product once or twice a month and write off 1000 miles of your truck, 15 meals meeting "clients", internet and home office space, etc I say BOO FRIGGIN HOO! Don't scam me and mine. I work extremely hard for a loss and don't claim it, it just doesn't feel right. I choose my business knowing it would be a loss for years so I accept it.I will refer you to this post- Taxes, but not what you think.

 

[DJ]

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I would venture to guess that the only "other" employer in Maryland with over 10K employess (in the state) is the state itself.

 

[tommays]

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here its X amount of employess nation wide not just in the state<br /><br />which means that all of the large box stores have to follow the same rules<br /><br /><br />tommays

 

[Kalian]

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I'm with 12'er and company. Although I have been in the enviable position of trying to support a family while woking 39.5 hours a week part-time, (no bennies)for $5.45 an hour, I worked hard to escape that. When I got home from work I conducted job searches, instead of entertainment options. I eventually worked my way out of that situation. It's a rough posistion to be in, but we have to remember it's an unskilled position, and should be viewed as a stepping stone or a crutch, not a career. Businesses are their to make money, not suport families.<br /> If you keep raising the minimum wage at a rate higher than inflation and regulating benifits packages your simply contributing to higher prices and more inflation. If you don't like the job, look for a better one. I dropped out of highschool and college without a degree, and had only myself to blame for my financial situation. I went to jr. college for 2 years on my g.i. bill and federal financial aid. I came from a very poor family. If I could do that, I see no reason why most others can not do the same, and be more sucsesful if they actualy see college through and get a degree.<br />Sorry for the rambling.

 

[imported_Curmudgeon]

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If the employees are not happy with their benefits package, they should not settle for them, and find employment elsewhere.<br /><br />Wal-Mart will continue to operate very effectively as long as reasonably competent people are willing to work for what they offer. States like Maryland will also continue to redistribute wealth as long as the Wal-Marts of the world continue to do business there. As a simple matter, all parties can vote with their feet!

 

[tommays]

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I feel the whole BOX STORE thing has had a somewhat negative net effect on the USA while we cant isolate are self’s from the world and not import anything I cant see where it’s a good thing to switch from JOBS making most of are own stuff to JOBS selling mostly other countries stuff.<br /><br /><br />And that is more or less what has happened in order to compete with each other ALL the box stores have started pulling insane amounts of inventory from china.<br /><br />I think the one of the real low points was when the American box stores testified against the American makers of larger TV sets during the dumping trial against china on this item.<br /><br />The America TV makers did win this case and are still able to make larger TV here but it really shows you were there loyalty is <br /><br /><br />tommays