Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Cool ! I'l be trying that tonight ! Thanks Don your a Saint !

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Ok well Updates on the Motor and drive !
And another question of course...
Well I found out the Impeller is completely torn to bits and needs replaced....I'll be putting a new one in the next few weeks. The temp seemed good when underway on the last run but the time was ticking on that motor it was gonna go at anytime because of how bad the Impeller was grenaded.
Anyway I took a vallve stem off an old tire and razored it down enuf to thread into the Dipstik hole and put about 3lbs of pressure in it (I think I read somewhere it's no to exceed 5lbs ?) No leaks could be found anywhere other than the seal at the fill hole under the cover. There was a leak there becuse of a bad seal.
Question is though on my prop the cone and locking tab look like :
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3844488
and
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3844487

All the docs and Parts I find say it should look like
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3844490
Do I have the wrong one on there ? I need to get these 2 parts because the slots on the washer are elongated and chewed up and the metal in the cone itself that fits into the slots is paper thin and about to break thru (I'm guessing I'd spin a prop then)
Can either style be used or does my 270 Outdrive have the wrong one ? My Prop has the Bolt thru the middle and the 270's when you look up a propcone for a 270 it has no bolt hole in it ? Just wondering if somthign was switched ?
Thanks !!
Joe in Ohio

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Click here

Not sure what parts list you are looking at, only the old 250 maybe even a very early 270 didn't use the center bolt in the prop cone. Boats similar to yours used the AQ125B or A engines usually. So try looking up your drive under either one of those engine models.

 

[am_dew]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Joe, I replaced the prop cone on my 270 last season. What I replaced looked like your 3rd link above. I replaced it with the parts in your top two links above. I am pretty sure all the prop cones you can buy for a 270 have a center bolt hole in them...the new one I bought did, but my 270 does not use the center bolt.

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

"but my 270 does not use the center bolt. "
Oh ok....well my propshaft has the hole in it and it does use the bolt thru. THe only diff is my prop cone is in 2 pieces and doens't come with the bronze lockwasher. Your prop cone is in one piece and does come with the bronze washer..
Hey Don your link shows the way my 270 prop cone assembly is. I'll order parts off of that drawing thanks !! To tell you the truth I dont remember seeing that Bronze lockwasher. I'll have to go home and check ....Maybe that why the cone is in such bad shape ?

 

[am_dew]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Since you have the bolt through the prop cone, not having the lockwasher would not be a big deal I would not think, just added security for not having the prop cone come off. With my setup (no bolt thru), the lockwasher is the only thing besides torque keeping the prop cone in place.

 

[joemamma_222]

Back Again !

Back Again !

Hey Guys, I've been chomping at the bit to start this year early once the Hard water leaves us...
Never did get to ordering the Book for the outdrive or the engine. I just insured the boat and trailer and got the pertinent info off everything.

Volvo motor:
Serial 2200111616868261
Model: 250A / SP

Is ther a site I can plug this in to make sure I'm gettin the right stuff ?

Don S, I know we spoke a few months ago about the Manual but that site doesn't say anything about what motor it's for when I goto the site and choose the 18.00 manual. Just wanted to make sure I'm getting the right one.
I got rid of the electronics (CRT color 13" monster fish finder) and have purchased new. I'm ready to go out and see if anything;s gonna break !
Thanks.
Joe In Ohio...

 

[bruceb58]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Check these guys out. They have the Volvo manuals.

http://www.marineengine.com/manuals/volvo/volvo_penta_sterndrive_gas.html

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

hmmm didn't see anything for the 250A would the 250 manual work ? (I'm guessing).....Anyway to look up a ser# ? I;'d like to know the year too....
thkas for the link though...

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Well, now that I have a serial number I can look it up for you. Sorry, nothing online for the owners to use with the SN.
You SN is 2200111616, the rest of those numbers is the spec. number and not part of the SN.
Your engine was installed 07/19/1991 by NAUTICAL MILE MARINE SERVICE. assuming your boat has hull number BLBC69FDD585.
The manual number for you engine is the 7732007 number I gave you earlier. Only one manual for the 250 engines. The 270 outdrive manual number is still 7724371

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

MAn ! I knew it was a repower ! At least I'm stilll thinking...the enigne looks totally new compared to 1100 hrs ? Thats awesome Don I wouldn;t ecpect you;d know when a boat was repowered !? SO is the motor a 1991 ?
thks !

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

It was a brand new engine with full warranty when it was installed in 91.

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Ok Guys ! Had the boat out yesterday. EVERYTHING is looking good ! EXCEPT some milky outdrive oil around the driveshaft bellows. The bellows looks new...the "kickup" I had last year when the drive wasn't locked down mighta put a hole in it like DONS said. I know now I need to inspect the bellows/replace....and inspect the Ujoint. I did do a pressure test on it and all looks good. Did have a bad oil fill seal but replaced it. Could I maybe have the drive too full ? I havent had too much luck searching thru the forums on a Pictorial of a volvo outdrive disassembly......can anyone point me in a direction ? Maybe somthing someones done before with a pic or 2 ? I've replaced impellers on outboards but never pulled the outdrive on a I/O...UI've got the manual but would like to see what others have gone thru.
Thanks alot !!!

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

If you have milky oil in the bellows, that's because water gets into the bellows then into the drive because the seal is not designed to keep water out of the drive only oil in. When the drive cools down after running, it will actually suck water into the drive if it's in the bellows.
Those bellows are thin, and should be replaced after 2 seasons. Getting water in the bellows also allows water into the engine bellhousing intermediate bearings which requires an engine pull to replace.
You also don't have to remove the complete drive to change the bellows. Removing only the upper gear box is all that's needed. Changing the gear lube, ujoint bellows, lubing the ujoints takes about an hour of easy work once you are familiar with the process.
Just remember to use all new orings when putting the upper gear box back on, and keep things CLEAN.
There are also shims between the upper and lower that must be in place when you put it back on.

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Man Don I wished you lived in Ohio.....an hour....hmmm thats about a 6 pack of tall ones ! Thanks for the info Don. I'll head home and take a look ! Thanks for the help !
So once the bolts are loose on the gearbox I'll pull it up first then pull the gearbox out away from the bellhousing 2nd right ? (just trying to visualize)
thanks again !

Anyone might have the part number handy ? I'd like to order it while I'm at work

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Hey Don I'll be starting the bellow replacement tonight. I wanted to copy your pic as a reference......But it's gone ??

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

Our internet service was down all night and all morning here. High Winds!

Should be working now,

PS: Born & Raised in Ohio. Spent my first 35 years there. Have no desire to go back.

 

[joemamma_222]

Re: Volvo 250 w/270 outdrive

thanks Don ! You da man ! I have it copied.....You can delete whenever !
I'll let you all know how I get along
Joe..

 

[joemamma_222]

Re:Update !

Re:Update !

Hey all Thought I'd blog about the upper housing removal...very easy....Just dropped the drive and went at it ... It came off verical first then I just pulled the unit away from the motor and I've got it in my hands. I did see the rubber O ring and One shim still stuck to the intermediate housing. I need to put a caliper on it and see if it;s a 1 2 or 3 MM....I;m thinking I can just reuse it ??
By the way the driveshaft bellow was full of watery oil. The u joints look fresh and have no play in em. Just ordered part # 875826 (driveshaft bellows), off of ebay for 24 bucks. pretty good price. Hope it;s not all dry-rotted when it gets here. Should I be measuring this shim and ordering a new one with my rubber O ring (pn925259) ? I'm thinking I might wanna order a new propshaft seal while I'm ordering...out of all my years of boating I've never had a propshaft seal leak but you never know....if this bellows replacemnt doesn;t help keep the water out I was thinking of just ordering a few more seals...while I'm at it. any ideas ?
Thanks Joe