I guess you can rationalize your beliefs in any way you want to. The lifespan is shorter in 3rd world countires, maybe poor choice of chemicals used as antiseptics are part of it... The Oceans have tolerated/absorbed massive abuse this past 130 years, but one day it will reach "The straw that broke the Camels Back", a point of no return. We Humans will never destroy this Planet. It was here long before Man inhabited it, and it will be here long after we cease to exist, having 'adjusted' the planets Atmosphere, Oceans, and Continents to the point over being uninhabitable for us. The Libs are at least intelligent people, who can look/see a little ways down the road, unlike Cons who are always dreaming of the past, but never actually look at the mess they left in their wake