Trailer wheel bearings

andydmartin

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How often do they need to be replaced? Is it easy to do it yourself? <br /><br />I'm going on a long trip and would like my trailer to be in proper condition as its a 1995 VIP tandem axle trailer...Any advise will be great!!<br /><br />What other boat trailer maintenance is needed?
 

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Re: Trailer wheel bearings

If bearings are kept lubricated, cleaned and repacked regularly they may never need to be replaced. Ignored and used in salt water they may need frequent replacement. Bearings consist of two parts. The rollers and the race in which they roll. The bearing (rollers) are easy to replace. The race is a press fit in the hub so they must be driven or pressed out. You NEVER replace just the bearing without replacing the race as they are a matched set. If you can't do it yourself, clean the hubs up and take them to any auto parts store that also does shop work. They will remove races and install new ones for a nominal fee. If you are not handy, this is not a job you want to tackle as it is a safety issue.
 

jlshields

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Upinsmoke, not to duspute a fellow Hoosier, but bearings and races carry different part # and can be purchased separately. I'm speaking of bearings purchased at Coldwell, Bearings Inc, etc, not the prepackaged ones from WalMart. Altho' bearings and races will wear to match each other to some extent, thats why to replace both.
 

tashasdaddy

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with an 11 year old trailer i would replace bearings and races. if uncomfortable doing it your self, your favorite tire dealer will do it. what condition are your tires, by the way? are they original also?
 

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Agreed that they carry separate numbers. Still a good idea to replace them as a set. I'm not as concerned about that as I am about installing a new bearing on an old race or vice-versa. A crack or unnoticed chip in a roller will take out a new race or new bearing in short order. As long as you have things apart, do the job right.
 

Major Woods

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With proper maintenance bearings will last the life of the trailer. Unfortunately water intrusion usually occures causeing the bearing to go bad prematurely. <br /><br />Trailer wheel bearing are not precision bearing and do not come as matched sets.<br />You can replace just the roller assembly if needed.<br /><br />Quality Assurance Engineer for a bearing company, MW
 

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Suit yourself Major. It just doesn't make sense to not replace a race when replacing a bearing. If you are replacing a bearing I would question what damaged it. If one replaces a bearing just to be on the safe side, one is wasting money and possibly creating a problem he didn't have before by running a new bearing on an old race. On the other hand, if the bearing needs replacement, it is very likely the race does too. Your already there. Finish the job. Perhaps the "matched set" was a poor choice of words but the race and bearing are generally packaged as a set where most folks would normally buy them. As I said, I agree the race and bearing carry separate numbers and therefore available separately. However, I stand by my contention that if one or the other needs replacing, its wise to replace both It doesn't matter if you buy them as a set or separately - that wasn't my point.
 

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andy on a long trip i always carry a small hydrolic floor jack. it makes changing a flat much quicker and easier.
 

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I agree with Upinsmoke, bearing/race should always be replaced as a set. It's nearly impossible to find a qualified source that would recommend otherwise.<br /><br />Easy to do yourself if you're mechanically inclined. If you're not, pay someone to have it done. You can do a Google search for "how to repack trailer bearings" and you'll find many photos and step-by-step walk-thrus to help guide the process.<br /><br />As for the rest of the original question....I trailer long distances year round. As tashasdaddy says, make sure you have a jack that will lift the trailer, AND a lug nut wrench that will remove the tire....more often than not your auto jack and lug nut wrench will NOT work on the trailer...trailers have different sized lug nuts from most cars/trucks. Obviously you need a functional spare tire that's properly inflated. For that matter, you need to check air pressure in ALL tires...fill to the max printed on the sidewalls for the trailer, and fill to the mfr's recommended pressure on the tow vehicle (sometimes going up to the sidewall max on rear tires for tow vehicle is a good idea to handle the extra trailer weight...depends on your tow vehicle, it's tires, and it's towing capacity....I'm not sure what you have). While you're there inspect the tires for any dry-rotting or cracking, replace NOW if any signs of above are present.<br /><br />If you don't know when it was last done, CHECK and repack all your wheel bearings. Likely they won't all need replacement, but they do need to be checked and repacked. If anything is remotely questionable, replace bearing AND race on just that one hub.<br /><br />Obviously check for proper functioning on the lights. And the fact that you have a tandem tells me you likely have trailer brakes. Brakes are the most maintenance-prone item on any trailer...have them checked, adjusted, and make sure they're working properly.<br /><br />For overkill and an absolute GUARANTEE you will not have a failure, I always carry a fully loaded hub assembly ready to install, and the tools to get it done. I have never needed it on the road...and is the best insurance I've ever owned. <br /><br />I absolutely refuse to own one of the many many trailers I see perched on the side of the interstate most any given day with a missing wheel/tire waiting for a tow or repair because the owner didn't properly prepare hismelf for the trip. Preventative maintenance and pre-emptive repairs is the key to making sure I'm not joining the ranks of those who have had an entire vacation ruined by something as stupid as a siezed wheel bearing...<br /><br />Hope this little checklist helps.
 

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All the advice I've ever gotten about races and bearings is that they mate for life...once you put 'em together they form a unique wear pattern that can wreak havoc with a new partner. Major, yours is the first I've heard to the contrary - thanks for sharing your expertise.<br /><br />I can testify that driving out & pressing in new races requires more than average DIY skill - or at least learning to do it without having seen it done first does. The rest of the operation is a piece of cake.<br /><br />With respect, c1c, a spare hub kit is not overkill - it's one of those things where the downside of a failure far outweighs the cost of the parts.
 

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Hey Andy...<br /><br />If you are not sure of how old and what condition your current bearing sets are in, for sake of peace of mind on a long trip, I would change the them or have them changed. If you have never changed bearings before and want to try, I would have someone assist and go through the process with them. After the first time you do it, you will see that it is fairly easy on most commen trailers. I us my utility trailer all year long. I have found that no matter how good the seals are, water will eventually get in. Both my boat trailer and utility trailer are single axle. Bearings for each trailer cost me $40 CDN and an hour of my time. I change them out every two years. Sooner if I use the utility trailer a lot during a particular winter. This may seem like over kill...but at least it is one less thing to worry about when I'm on the road.<br /><br />If you are going to carry a jack, you may consider a scissor jack out of a Honda Civic. I got a couple out a scrap yard for next to nothing. I find that they are light and pretty strong. I don't know how heavy your rig is but these little jacks lift my little 14 footer and motor pretty easily. Just a thought. The best part is that they are light and compact.
 

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Upinsmoke, I'm with you on replacing bearing and race as a pair. I didn't mean to sound like you should replace one and not the other. I ruined a new seal installing it, then ruined the new bearing removing the seal and was able to buy another new bearing by itself.<br />Just a little trick I learned, pack the inside of your new seals with grease and that will keep the garter spring from coming out when you hammer it in.<br />Sounds like Hoosier minds run down the same crack,....errr, I meant track.
 

Major Woods

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All the advice I've ever gotten about races and bearings is that they mate for life...once you put 'em together they form a unique wear pattern that can wreak havoc with a new partner. Major, yours is the first I've heard to the contrary - thanks for sharing your expertise.<br />
The above statement is true for precision bearing that are matched race to ball/roller.<br />Trailer bearings are not in this group, you can replace any race or roller assembly independently or the set as needed. "AS NEEDED" is the key phrase for the day. :p <br /><br />I'm sure the establishment you purchase marine parts at wants you to spend as much as possible and insists that a total replacement is required.<br /><br />Wear patterns in trailer races are a myth, if you have any wear pattern at all the bearing is shot. <br /><br />It is always wise to replace the race when changing the roller assembly but it is not a requirement if the race is not damaged, pitted, brinnelled or rusted. When in doubt change the race.<br /><br />I've shared this post at work (got a few laughs to) and we are surprised at the amount of bearing experts in the general public :D Not to offend, just poking fun ;)
 

njlarry609

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Nice to see the professional experts helping us weekend experts!<br />Since I have an infrared temp sensor ( about $40 ) I would use it to check bearing temp on long trips. Am I correct or in need of therapy?
 

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Personaly i have never seen a good race with a bad bad bearing OR a bad race with a good bearing<br /><br />If one has any pitting ect then the other is bad even if you cant see it yet<br /> <br /><br /><br />tommays
 

jtexas

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Oh, one more thing, if it ain't too late...don't assume that your vehicle lug wrench will fit your trailer lugs!!! It might not - and you don't want to find out the hard way.
 

andydmartin

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Re: Trailer wheel bearings

Originally posted by tashasdaddy:<br /> with an 11 year old trailer i would replace bearings and races. if uncomfortable doing it your self, your favorite tire dealer will do it. what condition are your tires, by the way? are they original also?
 

andydmartin

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LOL...Tires are new. I just bought the 95 Mariah Z212 Shabah from the biggest boat/trailer dealer in Nevada. The boat is now in the Sea Ray shop and they want to do all the wheels for $395.00
 

andydmartin

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Originally posted by Colorado04:<br /> Hey Andy...<br /><br />If you are not sure of how old and what condition your current bearing sets are in, for sake of peace of mind on a long trip, I would change the them or have them changed. If you have never changed bearings before and want to try, I would have someone assist and go through the process with them. After the first time you do it, you will see that it is fairly easy on most commen trailers. I us my utility trailer all year long. I have found that no matter how good the seals are, water will eventually get in. Both my boat trailer and utility trailer are single axle. Bearings for each trailer cost me $40 CDN and an hour of my time. I change them out every two years. Sooner if I use the utility trailer a lot during a particular winter. This may seem like over kill...but at least it is one less thing to worry about when I'm on the road.<br /><br />If you are going to carry a jack, you may consider a scissor jack out of a Honda Civic. I got a couple out a scrap yard for next to nothing. I find that they are light and pretty strong. I don't know how heavy your rig is but these little jacks lift my little 14 footer and motor pretty easily. Just a thought. The best part is that they are light and compact.
 
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