Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

waterinthefuel

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Got you beat. This link has already been posted under the thread entitled, "Why we're there". One that you ironically replied to! LOL
 

Plainsman

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Yeah Boom, that is horrible and disgusting!!!

We give them prayer rugs, korans and medical treatment at Club Gitmo, and somehow we're the bad guys. Go figure.

Don't worry, someone will spin it so it's our (the USA) fault.
 

rolmops

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Re: Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

Check out this link. It is not for the queezy. This is from the group that the party of rolmops and blu lunch want to coddle. They want to understand them and negotiate with them.:confused:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archiv...oise about them and nothing more substantial.
 

waterinthefuel

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That doesn't mean anything rolmops. A friend of mine I used to work with killed some ragheads to.

And instead of coming back home and becoming the best friend of the enemy and their cause, he plastered his car with yellow ribbons, bumper stickers, you name it.

When asked he said that the war has gone poorly, we should leave, but I support my fellow troops and wish them the best while they are there. He served two tours in Iraq and Afganistan and said that if called back he would gladly go back. He is currently on active reserve. He got back, went to school and is about 3 weeks from getting his A and P license, a day of which I will take him out to his favorite place to eat and tell him thank you for his service (I've already thanked him numerous times, but he's so humble he just says don't worry about it), congrats on the license and eat up.

It's called appreciation for service. What have you done to show appreciation for the troops since you got back, besides letting them feel their cause is worthless and unwinable? I've written letters of support, donated money for the children of fallen soldiers to go to college (Sean Hannity's Freedom Alliance Scholarship Fund), thanked every single troop I've run across who was in uniform or otherwise had some way of identifying themselves as soldiers, past or present.

Think about this. You turn a corner on a safehouse in Karbala and see plaster being blown off the wall right next to you, followed by the sound of automatic gunfire. You duck back down and take cover. Fifteen minutes earlier you were back at base on a computer and reading how people like you are saying the cause is unjust and the war is unwinable. How in the hell do you think that makes that guy feel? You've been there, you should know.

Obviously, just because you were a uniform doesn't mean you are good for the cause.

Oh yea, FYI, I tried to get in twice, but I have severe flat feet and I was stopped both times, citing that the combat boots would tear my ankles up and render me immoble very quickly. I can't help that. That's a medical condition I was born with.
 

rolmops

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Re: Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

Water in the fuel,I do not call you names and I do not condemn you and i do not call you a coward.
Flying plaster does not impress me.All it means is that it hit the plaster and not me.
What I try to make clear is that those who have seen and done it should not be judged by those who read about it.
I did not partake in the current round,but in the ones before it.
Only when you have been there,can you define what supporting the troops means.
 

Plainsman

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quote rolmps " Only when you have been there,can you define what supporting the troops means" end quote

I have been there and I totally disagree with that statement. I had support from a 4th grade class and it made me feel great! I had letters from folks I had never meet, and it kept my spirits up. So what WIF is doing IS supporting the troops!!!
 

treedancer

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Re: Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

Quote waterinfuel

Think about this. You turn a corner on a safehouse in Karbala and see plaster being blown off the wall right next to you, followed by the sound of automatic gunfire. You duck back down and take cover. Think about this. You turn a corner on a safehouse in Karbala and see plaster being blown off the wall right next to you, followed by the sound of automatic gunfire. You duck back down and take cover. Fifteen minutes earlier you were back at base on a computer and reading how people like you are saying the cause is unjust and the war is unwinable. How in the hell do you think that makes that guy feel? You've been there, you should know. How in the hell do you think that makes that guy feel? You've been there, you should know.


Lets try too see how they would feel if they had turned their computer on and happened to get on a boating site. Iboats comes to mind ,they stumbled onto dockside ,here we are, doing what we do, the never ending dialogue between Neo Cons, and Libs, on how this country should be run. . Explain to me how posting something like this is supporting the troops?

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0524072torture1.html
 

waterinthefuel

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Had you even read it you would have realized that those documents were seized by our troops. Their findings are opening the eyes of people who don't support the war. Imagine their elation when they see that their efforts are not going unnoticed, they're making threads all the way down to lowly boating forums! And better yet, on a thread entitled, "Why we're there." Gosh if I was a soldier I'd be tickled pink.

Hats off to them, good job!!

Oh yea, Plainsman, thanks for the appreciation of my efforts. I know that my efforts help the troops somewhere and thats what matters to me. Rolmops isn't a good representation of the troops as a whole. Any soldier that stands there and says you don't know what supporting the troops means until you've been there loses my respect for the exact reason you said. My co-worker had mentioned that a class of kids wrote them letters and that they were passing them around, and some were bringing sergeants to tears. He said the support those little letters gave him helped more than any amount of money or supplies could.

That's a real soldier. I don't know what rolmops is. I'm still trying to figure that one out.
 

treedancer

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Your right Wif with this statement, << Had you even read it you would have realized that those documents were seized by our troops. >> I hadn?t read it. When I read this statement in Booms original post < It is not for the queezy>that was enough warning for me to give it just a cursory glance, just enough to get the link out of it. The only thing I had to go on was the title. That didn?t in my uninformed opinion support the troops.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Re: Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

Ok guys, let me refresh your memory.

Here to talk not only about boating but just want to enjoy the huge community of members at iboats? This is the place for you! This area is highly moderated so please keep it clean, be respectful of others and just be nice.

Notice the last sentence?
Only warning.
 

12Footer

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Re: Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

Oh yea, FYI, I tried to get in twice, but I have severe flat feet and I was stopped both times, citing that the combat boots would tear my ankles up and render me immoble very quickly. I can't help that. That's a medical condition I was born with.

I see your medical condition has not stopped you. It has not silenced your keyboard, nor dampened your resolve. I thank you for your service, no matter how humble you think it is.
And just know there are millions out here in the same boat, my friend. I gotta get up to LA some day and buy you a beverage or two.
You support our troops and their cause in the only way you can, and you continue to do so with conviction.
Wake em up, bro. I got yer six.
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