Tools

[Pony]

A lot of you guys have been working on motors for A LOT longer than i have been alive. Yesterday I was able to get my hands on a Factory Service Manual for my 1988 25hp Johnson. Now I want to start looking at some tools that may come in handy if/when I start working on things (general maintaince ie waterpump and carbs and if problems occur fixing them). Any tips on tools (store bought or other) that help you guys would be great. Right now I know that I need:<br /><br />1. Compression tester<br />2. Torque Wrench<br /><br />But beyond that I am not sure what tools work and what sort of little tricks to employ (ie wire for cleaning carb passages)....Thanks in advance. I am sure this seems like a simple thing to many, but I have yet to do much more than a simple decarb and lu lube changes.

 

[joblo33]

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Air Compressor<br />A set of socket drivers makes things a lot quicker<br />A three bolt flywheel puller (Harmonic balancer puller)<br />Eric

 

[rodbolt]

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for routine maint, a home made spark tester, a compresion tester, a hand impact driver(especially useful for gearcase drain and vent screws) the jet driver for the carb main jet is nice, the only time you will need the puller is if you have to remove the flywheel. its also known as a harmonic balancer puller.<br /> other than that most decent hand tool sets will suffice for replacing water pumps and carb jobs and tune ups.

 

[timmathis]

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When and if you get into troubleshooting electrical. You will need a volt ohm meter and a DVA meter some fluke meters will do it all. Tim

 

[swist]

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Grease gun.<br />Spark plug gapping tool/gauge.

 

[surlyjoe]

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spend the extra 5 bucks for the gear oil pump too. those squeeze tubes suck..

 

[Pony]

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Yeah I bought one of those oil pumps last year........they are GREAT!! No mess <br /><br />I'll have to get a spark tester....I have a decent set of hand tools and I bought a nice air compressor last year. Might get the harmonic balancer puller as I am about to aquire a 1962 5.5hp Evinrude that I may have to chang or clean the points on at some point.....<br /><br />Tim, I hadnt though about the electrical equipment.....Thanks.<br /><br />Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I just know I dont want to pay someone else to do something i should be able to.........plus i want to know my engines.

 

[Silvertip]

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Having the VOM is one thing. Knowing where and how to use it is quite another. I'd suggest a trip to the library and reading a basic electricity handbook in which use of a VOM is discussed (unless of course you are electrically savy already).

 

[Paul Moir]

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With the spark plug gap gauge, make sure you get something that covers about .050"-.020". Specifically you'll need .020" to set the points on the 5.5hp and .030" for the spark plug gap.<br /><br />One of my favorite "tools" is a windex spray type nozzel screwed directly into the top of a bottle of TC-W3. But mostly I use it to pre-lube parts when assembling an engine. It's not really all that useful for general maintanance. There's another for 24:1 premix used to bypass the fuel system when testing. But I empty it out & wash it when I'm done for safety. Dremel with end-mill and torch for broken & tight bolts.

 

[swist]

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They make something that makes lower unit oil changing less messy than with the toothpaste tubes?<br /><br />What is this thing, how does it work, where do you get it, and what does it cost?

 

[rodbolt]

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best advice is to forget any knowledge you have of car or lawn mower type engines and carefully follow the factory OMC manual.<br /> even thopugh its a small motor it has many precision parts and is desined to run at its rated HP and RPM for hours on end. it will do it for years and years unless a subsystem degrades. then it can and will die rapidly.<br /> and dont let your buddy with an exwife who has a cousin that worked on a farm fixing tractors give you advice.<br /> if you ask a question try studying the manual then see if the advice given confirms what the manual said. if it does not ask why not.

 

[Pony]

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Originally posted by swist:<br /> They make something that makes lower unit oil changing less messy than with the toothpaste tubes?<br /><br />What is this thing, how does it work, where do you get it, and what does it cost?

Swist......here are a couple of examples.....both here at iboats.<br />

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<br /><br /><br />Thanks for the advice on that gap gauge Paul.....will do.<br /><br />Rodbolt- Oh don;t worry.....any questions i have AFTER looking at the manual will be asked here first and foremost. I spend a lot of time reading through the help forum for johnson/evinrude just to get familiar with terms and procedures. you guys are GREAT.

 

[jtexas]

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Originally posted by swist:<br /> They make something that makes lower unit oil changing less messy than with the toothpaste tubes?<br /><br />What is this thing, how does it work, where do you get it, and what does it cost?

1. a pump, like those disposable hand soap dispensers only bigger, with a hose<br /><br />2. on the end of the hose is a plastic fitting that screws into the lower drain plug hole on your lower unit. Pump oil in until it comes out the top, install the top plug, unscrew your pump & install the bottom plug. <br />Piece of cake!<br /><br />3. walmart, bass pro, academy, probably any marine dealer. <br /><br />4. $5<br /><br />enjoy!

 

[jtexas]

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.pony. <br />something I got that comes in handy occasionally - an automotive momentary starter switch, attach a couple wires with clamps, so you can activate starter from the back of the boat without gettin somebody to operate the key.

 

[Paul Moir]

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I like that first one pictured. The nice metal fitting with the o-ring can be be scavanged for pressure/vaccume testing a gearcase. So long as it takes a 3/8"-16tpi plug.

 

[Pony]

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I like the first one too.......Its the one I have actually. <br /><br /><br />Any sealers or lubes for gaskets that I might need??? not sure of wether that is required. I suppose the manual might tell me (if it ever gets to my house )

 

[timmathis]

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The list can go on and on. but I think we have coverd all that you need.<br /> Tim<br /><br /><br />P.S. Add some marine grease to your list.

 

[BOBPELL]

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Don't forget the BIG hammer!!!!!<br /><br />Oh, and a copy of "How to curse in Swedish". You really don't want your kids to understand what you are yelling.

 

[saumon]

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Originally posted by AWAYWEGO:<br />Don't forget the BIG hammer!!!!!<br /><br />Oh, and a copy of "How to curse in Swedish". You really don't want your kids to understand what you are yelling.

As you were in south Florida, you probaly usually dealt with salt water stuck lower units, so the big hammer and curses were part of the game, but .Pony may only need a medium hammer (and maybe a prybar)!<br /><br />If you plan to do some electrical work: <br />- crimping and stripping pliers<br />- connectors<br />- heat shrink tubing<br /><br />As you plan to remove the flywheel, you'll probaly need a timing light.<br /><br />These were not tools, but could be very handy:<br />a good stand, like the one on this post: Engine stand <br />(it's not mandatory to use it the the kitchen!) and some earmuffs attachement.<br /><br />some "fluids" (i had a full plactic box of those only for my 3 outboards maintenance):<br />- TC-W 3 engine oil<br />- gear lube<br />- marine grease<br />- penetrating fluid (WD40)<br />- anti-corrosion fluid<br />- white lithium grease<br />- dielectric grease<br />- carb cleaner<br />- decarb product (Seafoam, Merc. PowerTune)<br />- fogging oil<br />- anti-seize copper product<br />- RTV gasket maker<br />- threads sealant (lock-tite)<br />- sealant (3M 5200)

 

[saumon]

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...i've also heard of peoples using some kind of mech. fuel for weekend project, like Coors or Bud, but this can be hazardous. Beer and removed flywheel cover may lead to missing fingers (particulary if your neighbor or BIL is trying to help you)!