Tick season

DECK SWABBER 58

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Re: Tick season

Reading all this just makes my skin crawl. I'm itching all over.
I herd that they dint like garlic so eat lots of it.
Wanna come and visit the "beautiful" Shawnee National Forest?

We have a spare bedroom.:D
 

FBPirate95

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The little bas@@@d's.

Many insects are benificial. These are NOT.
What purpose can they possibly serve?
Except to torment mankind and our faithful
animal servant's.

Why in the world did God place them here???

I can send some sand gnats up your way. It'll make you forget about the ticks.....
 

eastont

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I'll trade even up...your ticks for our blackflies....;):D

I presume you aren't aware that the President of Magnotta Wines here in Ontario died from Lyme disease he contracted from a tick. My brother-in-law is right now fighting for his life trying ti defeat the disease.
Ticks are all over Ontario, we have them real bad around here this year.
 

Dave Barnett

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Put a little diesel or kerosene on an old rag and wipe it around the cuff of your pant legs and tops of your shoes. Not a cure all but it sure does help. I live in the woods myself and we have our share of the little beggars. I use Sevin granules on my yard and it works great. I also use Sevin dust on my dogs. Don't worry Sevin is approved for dogs. Just take a small handful and work it into their hair. I don't recommend it for house dogs though for obvious reasons. ;)
 

grannyd

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Mostly, ticks are just a pain in the "wherever they latch on". But speaking from experience, PLEASE pay attention to tick bites. In the span of three years I wound up with Lyme and Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. It took almost 2 years to get diagnosed with the Lyme and then the RMSF was a complete surprise. They were initially treating me for pnuemonia. If you get bit look for signs of redness and swelling. Forget the "bullseye" theory. Doesn't always present that easily. I still have serious lasting effects, as doctors don't want to test for some reason. They treat you like you're nuts. If you get tired, feverish or just feel like you have the flu that won't go away, get yourself to a doc and INSIST on a lyme panel. Please do not take it lightly.
-Granny D

p.s. RMSF is NOT confined to the western part of the country
 

j_martin

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We used to control ticks by having a lot of banty chickens running free.

But then you have other problems, like the grease for one, and the feisty roosters getting after the kids.

They got so wild that when we decided to clean up the flock and put them into chicken soup, the last 40 or so had to be taken out of the treetops with a 22 at night.

One day when I was just laying in the grass enjoying the nice weather, I observed that the ticks will crawl up to the tip of a blade of grass and hang on with just a couple of feet, with the rest outstretched feeling for a ride. Brush against them, and they're on ya.

and that ain't no lie. :D
 

canada_bob

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After spending quite a bit of time in West Africa in the last 12 years {Benin, Nigeria, Sierra Leone and Cameroon} I've seen my share of biting insects mostly mosquito's, tsetse flies and little things like noseeums and it's best to steer a wide berth away from them, Malaria and River Blindness is prevalent.

Over the years I tried a number of things some worked better than others, in the end I formulated XL5 my own stuff, based on barefoot/generational knowledge that I picked up on while I was over there.

I don't know if it works against ticks, but if any of you guys would like to try it I'll send you a bottle of it free of charge, including the postage, as I'd like to know if it's as effective against ticks as it is against mosquito's.

It's already been field tested in the jungles of Cameroon and Nigeria, also in Colombia, Papua New Guinea, Florida Everglades and so on, where it proved itself to be "equal to, if not better than Deep Woods Off".

I can't afford to send it out to everyone, shipping alone costs quite a bit these days, but the first 6 folks to ask in here will get one in the mail.

I guess I should mention that there's no deet in it, it's not a chemical concoction, it's made entirely of Food Grade Ingredients, so unlike deet you could actually drink it. If you drink deet you die, there's no antidote to deet, every year children mistaking it for pop drink it, nothing can be done for them, 15ml of deet is lethal.

As mentioned I don't know if XL5 works against ticks, as it's never been tested against them, but if ticks are a problem where you are then it don't cost you anything to try it, all I ask for is your feedback.

As for mosquito's XL5 works for around 3 hours before you need to reapply it, but it works for up to 5 hours against noseeums and blackflies.

One last thing, if you're allergic to nut oils then this might not be for you as it contains a small amount of coconut oil.

Canada {for that read Nova Scotia} Bob.
 

roscoe

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I'm in for a sample, Bob.
I'ts past prime tick season, but now is when I spend more time in the woods, so I can give it a try.
roscoe33 at mac dot com

Maybe it would be easier to just post the recipe?
 

canada_bob

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I'll drop you an email then Roscoe...

The stuff that I have is used by the Canadian, British and US Military in Iraq and Afghanistan, they like it and it works for them, and for the RCMP and Halifax K9 teams, they apply it to the dogs ears when they are tracking folks, seems the mosquito's will bite the dogs inside the ear, and that distracts the dogs from their work.

As mentioned though XL5 hasn't been tested against ticks yet, not that I'm aware of as we don't see them round here in Nova Scotia, nor in the parts of Africa where I've been, well not the type of ticks that we have on this side of the ocean...
 

heyttown

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Im game to give it a shot...Mosquitos will fly past 3 other people to land on me...Ive got scabs all up my legs from the little $(@#&$..

heyttown at yahoo.com
 

canada_bob

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Im game to give it a shot...Mosquitos will fly past 3 other people to land on me...Ive got scabs all up my legs from the little $(@#&$.. heyttown at yahoo.com

It's odd {well maybe not} how they will do that, I've spent 8-9 years studying them since I met the "locals" in Western Africa, where mosquito's aren't just a nuisance as they are for the most part to us, they are life threatening. Each year in Africa around 1 Million people die from Malaria alone, 10 times that get real sick but survive, many of them suffering for the rest of their lives. To add to the misery that I have seen 30% of the children in Africa die from Malaria before they reach 5 years of age, it's a desperate situation.

Anyway, finding this out and wanting to protect myself from Malaria, not to mention River Blindness {from the bite of tsetse flies}, it gave me some incentive to do something about it. I guess I should clarify that comment about them biting us, they don't actually bite, they drill a hole into us.

Thank gawd for Google and for the Native knowledge that I picked up on, what you might call the barefoot/generational "wisdom" that has been passed down for hundreds of years, if not longer, but has almost been lost in the last 50 years.

Here's some of what I've learned about mosquito's and what we are up against when they are on the prowl.

First of all a mosquito can smell us from at least 100ft away, they don't have noses as such, they have 72 sensors on their antenna, each sensor capable of identifying a single molecular odor particle.

To put their ability to sniff us out into perspective, a dogs sense of smell is around 1,000 times more acute than the average human, a mosquito's sense of smell is 1,000 times more acute than a dog, the end run of that is...

A mosquito's sense of smell is 1 million times more acute than a humans !!!

They pick up on the CO2 {carbon dioxide} that we exhale and the unique body odors that each of us have. They have preferences in their choice of food the same way that we do, on mans meat is another mans poisson the same with mosquito's, that's why if there's a choice on their menu the mosquito's will, on occasion, leave some folks alone.

Once we pop up on their radar they will follow the scent until they are around 20ft away from us. At this point our body heat becomes the main signal for them, so they switch from their sniffing radar and lock onto us with their infra red sensing eyes, clever little beggars aren't they.

From 20ft out they head right for us, locking in on a hot spot, uncovered skin usually and then when they get even closer they can even pick out a vein or an artery due to the heat of the blood.

Once they get to within a couple of inches they will hover for a moment, partly to look for the best spot to land, but more importantly to make sure that we are what they are looking for. Mosquito's are very selective in the species that they bite, some prefer goats, or dogs or birds, some {of the over 3,500 species} prefer humans, thankfully only about 10% of mosquito species prefer us, and thankfully again, not all the 350 or so that prefer us live on the same continent.

Now that we know what we are up against we can try to do something about it. The first thing to do is try to "cloak" ourselves, we can try to do that by masking/overcoming the smell of the CO2 and the body odors that we emit, so that we don't get noticed as much, that helps, but the secret is, knowing what masks us most effectively, rather than what will make us even more attractive to them {certain perfumes}.

Masking alone will keep us safe from the attention of most of the long range mosquito's, but it don't help if we walk out of the house and there's half a dozen of them hanging upside down on the gutter. If we are within 20ft of them we are glowing in the dark so to speak, so they will jump off and head right for us.

Not must you can do at that point, they are on their way in, but...

We have one last line of defense, as they hover making sure that we are what they are looking for, we need to confuse them by emitting an odor that makes them think twice as to what we are. Remember they have a sense of smell 1 Million times more acute than we have, so if we have something on our skin that they don't like the smell of, chances are they will leave us alone and go bite someone else.

The tough part is figuring out what puts them off their "food" just as they are about to eat, but oddly enough folks knew how to do that way back in the times of Ancient Egypt.

Deet doesn't do any of the above, it doesn't mask our odor, it messes up the sensors on the mosquito's antenna, so not knowing what the hell we are most of them won't bite you if you're wearing Deet, that's why/how Deet works.

But, no matter what you wear 3-5% of mosquito's will still bite you, the reason for that isn't known yet, but the thinking is...

Like people, or dogs we don't all have the same sense of smell, women near always have a better sense of smell than men, and you don't go hunting hogs with a poodle, you take the dog {species} that has the best sense of smell.

Same with mosquito's, some have a very acute sense of smell some are flying around seemingly with a head cold all the time they are the ones that just don't give a damn what you wear, they are hungry, they can see blood, and they are having some of it...

I guess you can see this has become a pet topic for me, it's a challenge to be up against something that weighs less than 1 Millionth of what we weigh, yet has the ability to kill us.

They really are interesting little beggars...

PS... if you think mosquito's have a good sense of smell, blackflies and noseeums are 3-5 times more acute than a mosquito, but..

That's good for us though, because when we wear a repellent it will "seem" to last longer as far as blackflies and noseeums are concerned.

A repellent that is effective for lets say 3 hours against mosquito's should be effective for up to 6 hours against blackflies and noseeums...
 

mississippi

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yea, one of the guys i work with got bit by a tick an caught rocky montion fever high fever and chills (had to go to doctor a couple times) they bad in ms@la too:redface:
 

xg393

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Great write up CB makes sense to me just never seen it laid out like that. I'll try your bug spray and let you know if it works for me I'll pay for UPS if that gets it here sooner? prime biting time for the fish and the bugs now here in FL.

Matt.
 

aspeck

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We kill quite a few deer that have a lot of ticks on them. It is interesting to sit there and watch the mass evacuation of ticks as the now deceased deer cools. It is obvious that the body heat and flowing blood of the animal is what attracts and hold the tick. I have also walked into the walk-in freezer after a day of hunting and watched ticks scramble for warmer temps. They do not like the cold!

I haven't found much that controls the ticks, but I do try to keep everything covered well and keep pants legs and shirt sleeves closed tightly so the little buggers can't get in. Also, the group of us that hunts together "examines" each others clothing every time we meet up in the woods. If we can remove them before the find skin to borrow in, the better off our life is. Each night after being in the woods my wife has to do a thorough skin exam to make sure none got through the clothing. Generally only about 4 or 5 ticks get through the gauntlet and actually get to borrow in the skin each year.

They are nasty little buggers! I hate them!:mad:
 

heyttown

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The no-see-ums love me also...I go to florida at least once a year and I come home itching for weeks after, nothing has seemed to work for me...

Great write up on the Skeeters, That almost belongs in a book or something..Very good.
Whatever my natural odor is they love it...When I am going out someplace I know is a haven for them, I will not put deodorant or cologne on,ive changed several brands of soaps, so I just think its my natural body odor they love...That and Im a big guy so Im like an all you can eat buffet to them :)
 

Dave Barnett

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Good tip, but I was looking for a more, "Napalm the whole area!" kind of solution ;). I once had a purple lunch bag and thought nothing of it until darn near everyone at work commented on it, but that whole pantyhose idea just might be a step too far for me.. although you can ask me again the 50th time I'm picking ticks off of me and I may have a far different reaction, to both the napalm and the pantyhose..

Seriously, though, are there any chemicals or flowers/plants which can be spread in the area which fend off the tick attack? They must hate something enough to stay away, or better yet, die.

Dursban Lawn Granules help quite a bit. I have heard that lemon grass planted in flower beds and gardens help fend off ticks and skeeters.
 
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