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Commander_47

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No, he doesn't.
You guys are funny. "the sky is falling the sky is falling"

Not everyone has unlimited money to pay the gargantuan prices demanded just because something says "marine".

You mental know it alls obviously have more money then common sense.

If a 10.00 dollar spark arrestor, or a 5.00 battery box will get the job done to code, then what is your beef?

It's the same with a starter.

And as for a carb, all that talk about purchasing a high dollar "marine carb" is just bunk.

For a Holley you simply purchase and install J tubes to dump overflow into the venturi, for a Q jet you simply replace the rectangle float with a "slash cut", like this one.


Boat carbs need to be richer. So do some simple research on line for the correct jetting, use a suitable flame/spark air cover and have fun safely.

You know, I just don't see all those hot rods out there bursting into flames over leaky carbs.
 

Scott Danforth

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You know, I just don't see all those hot rods out there bursting into flames over leaky carbs.
because when a hot rod carb leaks, the fuel is on the ground and air dissipates it. if the car is moving, the driver never knows it

however in a boat, when a boat leaks fuel, it leaks into the bilge. gas fumes are heavier than air, so the fumes build up until your non-marine starter/alternator/ignition causes it to blow.

then you end up with fatalities.

full


Boat blows up at fuel dock

yet another boat explodes

 

achris

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If a 10.00 dollar spark arrestor, or a 5.00 battery box will get the job done to code, then what is your beef?

It's the same with a starter.

And as for a carb, all that talk about purchasing a high dollar "marine carb" is just bunk.
You are SOOOO wrong!

Electrical items need to be 'spark suppressed', and fuel systems are designed quite differently to automotive.

Automotive starters have nothing in the design that stops sparks getting out, marine starters do.
Automotive carbs vent to open space, marine carbs vent internally.

You put an auto carb (which pours petrol vapours into the bilge) and auto starter together and you are GUARANTEED to be the first boat in orbit.

Marine ratings are there for a reason. STANDARDS ARE WRITTEN IN BLOOD! Ignore them, and you're a bloody idiot!

Chris......
 

2550SX

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because when a hot rod carb leaks, the fuel is on the ground and air dissipates it. if the car is moving, the driver never knows it

however in a boat, when a boat leaks fuel, it leaks into the bilge. gas fumes are heavier than air, so the fumes build up until your non-marine starter/alternator/ignition causes it to blow.

then you end up with fatalities.

full


Boat blows up at fuel dock

yet another boat explodes

Is that a real picture?
 

Commander_47

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You are SOOOO wrong!

Electrical items need to be 'spark suppressed', and fuel systems are designed quite differently to automotive.

Automotive starters have nothing in the design that stops sparks getting out, marine starters do.
Automotive carbs vent to open space, marine carbs vent internally.

You put an auto carb (which pours petrol vapours into the bilge) and auto starter together and you are GUARANTEED to be the first boat in orbit.

Marine ratings are there for a reason. STANDARDS ARE WRITTEN IN BLOOD! Ignore them, and you're a bloody idiot!

Chris......
you are funny as well.

You, obviously, along with some others, didn't read my posts. I did not say ignore them.

Marine carbs, electric parts, et al are the same parts that are on cars.

An alternator with a spark shield (which is just a screen), or a starter, with a spark shield, are the exact same alternators put on cars.

You can fantasize about how much better your $500.00 marine alternator is, but in reality it is absolutely no different than the one from wal mart.

GM designed the Q jet as a carb for ALL applications, and put it in ALL their cars and many boats, including mine. Like with all "one size fits all" applications, a Buick is different from a Chevy is different from a Mercruiser.

For the boat they changed the float and added a slant so it would not overflow but rather drain into the venturi. You can buy these for a couple of bucks to adapt your car Q jet to a Marine Q jet in a just a few minutes work. You will also have to re jet it.

Same with a Holley, All you have to do is buy the J spouts for a few dollars and slip them on the Holley so the overflow drains into the venturi, then re jet the carb.

Voila, marine carb.

In fact, there is another thread on this very forum where a moderator talks about modifying Carter and Edelbrock carbs to be marine carbs.

It was my thought that this forum was designed to discuss things like this in an intelligent manner. Not to just dismiss someone because they are trying to offer advice that does not comport with your preconceived notions.

Some of us actually WORK on ourr boats. They just don't go to West Marine and break out the plastic pay someone to put it on.

But C'est La Vie. The effete can tool around in their yachts while us proletariat bumble along our merry way.

Oh, and btw, showing pictures of boats on fire or explosions does nothing to support your argument without the reasons why it happened. A fuel related fire does not mean the owner was NOT using a "marine" alternator. There are many reasons a boat, or a car, can catch fire.

I will submit that if you are so incapable of checking your own boat that your bilge fills with gas, fumes and other noxious substances, then it is YOU who are the idiot boater.

But don't worry about me. I'm through here.
 
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Guitarhead

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I got another problem guys . They plasti dipped this boat . Well I was removing it off the top (white ) and it exposed gel coat underneath . It is like a paint , almost like gel coat paint maybe ??? How can I get this off . It is thick some is coming off easy some is hard to remove . It accidentally came off when I was trying to remove the white plasti dip
 

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Scott Danforth

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That is a decal stripe

3M woodgrain and decal remover followed by 3M woodgrain and decal glue remover
 
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