The Ultimate Lubricant : Militec????

[Pony]

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Thanks for the info Lubedude....help much appreciated.

 

[txswinner]

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If I am not mistaken Miltech has been reg issue for weapons for many years. M-16, ammo, oil and rubbers all ya need. Yes Marine application.

 

[Bwalker]

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I would steer clear of anything that has a chlorinated parrifin in it... Esters can be parrifins btw?

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by Ben Walker:<br /> Esters can be parrifins btw?

True, but I was assured that this was "NOT" a parrifin ester that they use.<br /><br />Like I said, give Russ a call, then you can spew whatever trash ya want.<br />

 

[TheOilDoc]

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"DESCRIPTION: MILITEC-1 is a chemically reacted synthetic hydrocarbon metal conditioner with a constant non-oily molecular bond."

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by TheOilDoc:<br /> "DESCRIPTION: MILITEC-1 is a chemically reacted synthetic hydrocarbon metal conditioner with a constant non-oily molecular bond."

Why not show the whole page?<br /><br />Its still not a Chlorinated Hydrocarbon!<br /><br /> The whole page

 

[Pony]

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"MILITEC-1 contains no solids, PTFE, solvents, metals, viscosity enhancers, chlorinated paraffin's or other harmful ingredients. MILITEC-1 is non-hazardous, non toxic, non-combustible, and is approved environmentally for U.S. Navy submarine use."<br /><br /><br />So Lubedude...how has it performed for you?? I know you said it has had no performance impact. anything else you have noticed??

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by pony85:<br />I know you said it has had no performance impact. anything else you have noticed??

I wish there were something I could say good about it, like my boat is 5 MPH faster now, or I have to drain the fuel out of it every night when I come back in, but I cant I guess Im just running it for insurence.<br /><br />I will say that something is giving me great fuel economy though, I cant really say what it is or what my economy is, but I use very little fuel for a 150. 3,000-3,500 seems to be the sweet spot at about 30 MPH. Seems I can go forever on a gallon at that speed. Smart tabs, Amsoil, GTA Fuel enhancer, Militec1???? All of the above.

 

[Pony]

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Yeah i was looking at it for insurance as well....I don't have oil injection or anything, I was thinking more or less if something gets messed up and the motor runs too lean for awhile or if somehow i dont get enough oil in there or something crazy......

 

[dajohnson53]

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Originally posted by Tim Mathis:<br /> Right answer. Dunaruna,It will pop faster plus you will live longer too...Tim

yea, less corrosion and wear and tear on the innards. Keeps everything, er, moving smoothly.

 

[BillP]

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Originally posted by pony85:<br /> "MILITEC-1 contains no solids, PTFE, solvents, metals, viscosity enhancers, chlorinated paraffin's or other harmful ingredients. MILITEC-1 is non-hazardous, non toxic, non-combustible, and is approved environmentally for U.S. Navy submarine use."<br />

"Approved environmentally for U.S. Navy submarine use". Just curious about who did the approving? <br /><br />This stuff sounds like the same product a gun collecter friend told me about a few yrs ago. He was real happy with it for the first couple yrs but later found it left a residue that started freezing unused guns up. Those would be the guns that get oiled but not cleaned or cycled.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by BillP:<br />

Originally posted by pony85:<br /> He was real happy with it for the first couple yrs but later found it left a residue that started freezing unused guns up. Those would be the guns that get oiled but not cleaned or cycled.

I doubt that it was the same product, as you clean the weapon, use the product and wipe it completly off leaving no residue to build up.

 

[BillP]

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Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /><br />I doubt that it was the same product, as you clean the weapon, use the product and wipe it completly off leaving no residue to build up. <br /><br />You may be right but this guy has been a serious collector for 30+ yrs and is my cousin...so I know he is credible. He used ArmorAll several years for storing guns and it also froze them up. Who would think Armorall would leave residue that would do that? It wasn't rust that froze them up, but residue that you couldn't see. I think he then tried the "other" stuff and had similar results. But those guns aren't fired and therefore don't get cleaned first...and heavy coats are applied and left on wet for protection. Next time I talk to him I'll find out what the product was.

 

[LubeDude]

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In that situation, Militec may not be the correct oil, or it may be that he didnt follow directions and just had the "More is better mentality".

 

[BillP]

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Yep, when it comes to rust protection for storage the "more is better mentality" usually works best. Hurricane Andrew got most of his 80+ guns soaking wet and only a couple were trashed by rust.

 

[rodbolt]

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instead of relying on snake oils for insurance try maintenence. it costs a bit more than snake oils but usually is better insurance. if you use the wait til it breaks maint schedule snake oils wont help anyway.<br /> after doing this gig about 30 years I can tell you most failures are caused by bad fuel delivery or bad cooling system parts. keep it fed a good supply of properly mixed feul with a properly maintained and clean fuel system and keep it cool with a properly maintained and clean cooling system and odds are the power head will out live you.<br />in the event of a lean out or overheat snake oils wont prevent any damage. the pistons will actually be eaten by detonation or just swell til the stick in the bore. snake oils are of no valure then.<br /> eaten pistons normally go back to the guy who left the dock knowing it ran poorly but was determined to run it anyway. taking a 300 dollar repair to a total rebuild in the process.<br /> see it at least once a week.

 

[timmathis]

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Well put rodbolt.

 

[TheOilDoc]

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When snake oils are combined with motor oils they can have negative impacts because they introduce other chemical components and properties into the oil, thowing off the balance and formulation of the original oil. Oil manufacturers would be formulating their oils completely different if MILITEC-1 was going to be added to it. And engine manufacturers, particularly aircraft and high-performance engine makers, would be "metal conditioning" their engines if they needed it.<br /><br />

Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /><br />Its still not a Chlorinated Hydrocarbon!

According to MILITEC, and as I posted before, it is a chlorinated synthetic hydrocarbon.<br /><br />It doesn't really matter if it's a chlorinated ester, a chlorinated parrifin, a chlorinated hydrocarbon, or a chlorinated syntetic hydrocarbon. When it gets mixed with your hydrocarbon-based oil (unless you're using a 100% pure ester oil) it becomes a chlorinated hydrocarbon.<br /><br />Using it on guns or as a cutting oil is one thing. In an engine is another.

 

[dajohnson53]

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What does "metal conditioner" mean?

 

[gss036]

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I still remember back when I was using Merc TCW 2cly oil in 1989, you open the jug and it smelled like opening a jug of bleach. I got 140 hrs on a new engine before it blew up. I switched to Exxon/Texaco and Penzoil, (knock on wood) and the new power head is still going strong after 15 years.<br />I have to agree, snake oil is just that, lots of people getting rich on it.