The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

jasoutside

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Did you guys catch this 2015 Ford?

Aluminum :joyous:

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

huh.....BF, you're the LAST guy i would expect to think this was a good idea......i was just discussing this with a colleague. aluminum works for Acura NSXs, less so for Audis, not at all for pickup trucks. IMHO. imagine a truck body that looked like your hull.....
 

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

this will be the start of shortage of aluminum.... The Aluminum producers, are forecasting demand to exceed supply in 2014, and we will not see production capacity catchup till 2017 or later. This may mean a significant increase in aluminum prices, and scrap prices. meaning all those nuts thinking an 18' starcraft is worth $800-$1000 in scrap may eventually be right.
 

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

huh.....BF, you're the LAST guy i would expect to think this was a good idea......i was just discussing this with a colleague. aluminum works for Acura NSXs, less so for Audis, not at all for pickup trucks. IMHO. imagine a truck body that looked like your hull.....

ha, and my aluminum hull will soon float again despite 4 decades of abuse and neglect. OTOH, the steel truck that I babied for only 1 decade is turning into a rust-bucket.
 

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We all know aluminum has its corrosion problems too. Very few body shops are certified to repair aluminum vehicles. Although I'm sure this will change quickly as aluminum becomes more mainstream in the auto industry.

I'm certainly not happy with aluminum corrosion issues I've experienced on the vehicles I've owned. 2007 Jeep with severe pitting corrosion on the aluminum wheels, I'm gonna have to bust out the dremel and clean out the pits, etch, fill and paint 5 wheels.

2009 Dodge Ram- every aluminum TPMS has needed replacing within 4 years of ownership due to corrosion- causing cracking of the retainer nuts.
 

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Nah Chevy makes a Tahoe Starcraft edition I have only seen one it is owned by a girl at work I tried to buy it on the spot but she wouldn't sell.
 

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

I was thinking one of these?

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jasoutside

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

Rust belt is right. My 05 Yukon XL is showing serious rust issues at the bottoms of the doors. Plus other mechanical issues. Man, autos are such a sore spot for me. They really seem to be trouble, short and long term.

I could buy new and be trouble free certainly.

What do ya spose a new alum Ford would go for anyway? Probably about the same as buying up one of those Canadian Provences eh?

Yup, way outside my public educators income.
 

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Heck you couldn't give me a Ford, even aluminum and called a StarCraft. An pull my StarCraft with a Ford not a chance.
And so what are you saying Jason, You think were cheep up here.:rant:

;):D
 

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I have to say... I like the idea.

Curious how the bed would do tho...

ETA: Remember those chevys from the 80s with paint pealing off of the primer?

I wonder if ford got the paint right :lol:
 
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jasoutside

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

And so what are you saying Jason, You think were cheep up here.:rant:

Nah, not at all friend, just the opposite!

There's no way I'd spend $55K on a new truck. Or Alberta. Waaaayyyy too much!

Now, $55K for B.C.? Oooo, that would be a pretty good deal:becky:






:boink::boink::boink::boink:
 

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^ bc is perdy! :)

i'd go in 25k!
 

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I find it ironic that I literally just got back from dropping the Silverado off at the shop for a complete fuel-line replacement :facepalm: (I planned on pulling the bed to change the pump & lines/filter this spring...but the fuel line sprung before spring)

In all fairness, I asked the guys at the shop if any manufacturer stood-out for rot resistance...they said that the NY road salt does not discriminate.

My next new vehicle will be getting undercoating before it leaves the lot.
 

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Grew up with a Volvo that had a number of alum panels --- thing lasted 18 years and still looked amazing --- a little oxidization on the sunroof and that was about it.

Half a million miles and it was time for a new one....

Aluminum is great.

Prolly a good idea to pick some stock at alco or an alum company... F150 will likely stay the best selling vehicle in N.A....
J.
 

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

for the salt belt, you might be right....better (mostly) surface oxidation than cancer riddled. given what we've seen where hulls have been hit/crushed/folded/crunched, i still wonder how it will do in truckage use.

i'll up the bid to 75K for BC, eh. why yes, they do call me Texas Big Spender, why do you ask?
 
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Philly.com article

Regarding Price:
Despite the increased costs, Douglas W. Scott, Ford Truck Group marketing manager, insisted the new truck's pricing would remain about the same.

"The current F-150 ranges from $24,000 to $50,000," he said. "Our intention is to cover the same price range."

Regarding Durability:
Another issue raised by the aluminum cab and bed is how it will sit with a rather traditional base of buyers long accustomed to steel's ruggedness.

"We've done a lot of homework and we've found that 80 percent of our customer base understands that aluminum has strength as well as being weight-saving," Scott said. "Most people get it."

It's also true that the remaining 20 percent apparently aren't so sure.

"That means that 140,000 are skeptical," Phillippi said. "That's a lot of skepticism."

While there may be some discontent in the market, Ford maintains the new truck is the strongest, most durable F-150 ever. The company says the aluminum alloys employed in the cab and bed are very strong and more dent- and corrosion-resistant than steel, adding that the high-strength steels and design employed in the frame make it even stronger than its predecessor.
 

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and for us on team-GM,

A July 2013 Reuters article

But GM likely won't be able to implement an extensive weight reduction program until the just-redesigned Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra are overhauled again in 2019, according to supplier sources. That is five years after Ford plans to slash at least 700 lbs (318 kg) from its best-selling F-150 pickup as part of a fall 2014 redesign.

One supplier source said GM plans to introduce late next year a special aluminum-intensive version of the Silverado that could be up to 250 lbs lighter, with 20-percent better fuel economy.
 

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Re: The obvious choice to pull our Starcrafts....

My Aluminum body '62 Land Rover is in pretty good shape, very little oxidation. Just wish the steel frame and rear axle weren't rotting away.
 
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