That sinking feeling

oldjeep

Admiral
Joined
May 17, 2010
Messages
6,455
Pictures from another forum. Mechanic launches boat and ties up to dock. Owner arrives 4-5 hours later to find boat under water - plug is sitting on outdrive.
 

Attachments

  • downsize.jpg
    downsize.jpg
    63.9 KB · Views: 0
  • downsize-1.jpg
    downsize-1.jpg
    70.7 KB · Views: 0
  • downsize-2.jpg
    downsize-2.jpg
    78.1 KB · Views: 0
  • downsize-4.jpg
    downsize-4.jpg
    64.1 KB · Views: 0

71-South

Seaman Apprentice
Joined
Apr 15, 2010
Messages
39
Re: That sinking feeling

Let that be a lesson to all - never post on another forum.
 

BuzzStPoint

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
May 27, 2009
Messages
1,003
Re: That sinking feeling

If that was my boat, I dont think I'd know what to say.
 

Huron Angler

Admiral
Joined
Apr 7, 2009
Messages
6,025
Re: That sinking feeling

I bet he did a great job fixing the I/O too...never will know now.
 

phwrd

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 30, 2007
Messages
294
Re: That sinking feeling

OMG ! I think i would just go ape. But then again, where was the owner when it was being launched ?
 

jonesg

Admiral
Joined
Feb 22, 2008
Messages
7,198
Re: That sinking feeling

"Screw it, you can fix the bellows next time,
I just wanna go boating for now."
 

fat fanny

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
Feb 9, 2006
Messages
1,935
Re: That sinking feeling

The man that launched that poor rig would be hanging from is ears from the highest thing I could reach. Another lesson learned this is why I work on my own stuff
 

cribber

Lieutenant
Joined
May 29, 2008
Messages
1,338
Re: That sinking feeling

I'd lawyer up and take the knucklehead to court to pay my deductible and insurance premium increase for his negligence.
 

blairjbyrd

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Jul 11, 2009
Messages
109
Re: That sinking feeling

I would be locked up for a long time if someone did that to my boat:eek:
 

seaboo

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Sep 8, 2008
Messages
300
Re: That sinking feeling

I would be locked up for a long time if someone did that to my boat:eek:


Not me!!!!! But I would be owning a much bigger, newer, nicer boat courtesy of the shop that did the repair/launching.
 

tnduc

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
May 2, 2007
Messages
292
Re: That sinking feeling

At least he remembered to tie it to the dock.....
 

kenmyfam

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Messages
14,392
Re: That sinking feeling

Unfortunately these things can,will and do happen. Just hope the owner was compensated adequately.
 

kend301

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
1,005
Re: That sinking feeling

Not me!!!!! But I would be owning a much bigger, newer, nicer boat courtesy of the shop that did the repair/launching.

I couldn't agree more although it would have to go through insurance for the owner or shop but I would think that the shop will be liable for any gap in $$$ for a new boat . Looks like a branded title to me .
 

oldjeep

Admiral
Joined
May 17, 2010
Messages
6,455
Re: That sinking feeling

The thing that amazes me is that the owner - rather than making an insurance claim is allowing the mechanic to flush out the motor/drive and attempt to dry up and clean the rest of the boat. The mechanic is going to give them a 2 year warranty.
 

H20Rat

Vice Admiral
Joined
Mar 8, 2009
Messages
5,203
Re: That sinking feeling

The thing that amazes me is that the owner - rather than making an insurance claim is allowing the mechanic to flush out the motor/drive and attempt to dry up and clean the rest of the boat. The mechanic is going to give them a 2 year warranty.

There is no way I would want my insurance to cover this... What if I didn't even have insurance! Not to mention it is yet another reason for your rates to go up. (yes, ANY claim can cause a rate increase, even if it isn't your fault)

But... I don't agree with the flush. That boat has been sunk, period. New engine at a minimum, including all accessories. The alternator and starter MIGHT work after getting flushed, but they have a couple months at best.
 

oldjeep

Admiral
Joined
May 17, 2010
Messages
6,455
Re: That sinking feeling

There is no way I would want my insurance to cover this... What if I didn't even have insurance! Not to mention it is yet another reason for your rates to go up. (yes, ANY claim can cause a rate increase, even if it isn't your fault)

But... I don't agree with the flush. That boat has been sunk, period. New engine at a minimum, including all accessories. The alternator and starter MIGHT work after getting flushed, but they have a couple months at best.

The mechanics insurance is what should cover it, but placing the claim with your insurance co would start the process. Problem with this whole scenario is that the owner now basically has a salvage boat even if everything works fine. Why bother having insurance if you are not going to use it when the time comes?
 

indy440

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jul 15, 2009
Messages
400
Re: That sinking feeling

Why bother having insurance if you are not going to use it when the time comes?



I agree with this. Its the whole reason I pay insurance. I want to know that if I screw up there will be something to help bail me out...
 

Thad

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Jun 8, 2009
Messages
1,028
Re: That sinking feeling

^^^^^ditto!

Absoluty no way would there even be discussion any farther than "hey, we will just flush". "Nope, stop right there. I want a boat RIGHT NOW! Cut me a check!"
And then find a different mechanic and marina to grace with my business.
 

Home Cookin'

Fleet Admiral
Joined
May 26, 2009
Messages
9,715
Re: That sinking feeling

Those of you who think you are perfect are annoying those of us who are.

First, any business can make a mistake. It's how they handle it afterwards that matters.
Second, in a case like this, the owner does not have to involve his insurance company other than to notify it of the incident; his insurance comes in only if the mechanic does not step up.
Third, if your used boat is damaged by another person, he owes you another used boat. Period. No new boat, no bigger boat penalty, no inconvenience, lost use, etc. Same with cars, washing machines, whatever. The only exception in some states is that dry cleaners have to give you replacement cost, not value, for your used shirt they damage.

That being said, an owner might rather have a dried out boat with 2 years free maintainance/repairs than a check to go find and buy a used I/O bowrider of unknown provenance. His choice. he may also be planning to sell it.

We also don't know what else the mechanic may have offered to make it good.

Consider this: why didn't the bilge pump handle this? Perhaps the owner chose not to have a float switch. While that doesn't shift the blame to the owner, legally, there is something to be said for a guy who exposes his boat to such risk. After all, the primary reason for the float switch is for when things go wrong! And even if the pump wouldn't keep up for 5 hours, it would have alerted the kid who launched it at the time, or a passerby on the dock. BTDT.

Fat Fanny, I sure wouldn't want to have your type as a customer or client.
Cribber, stop and think about it a minute: You'd hire a lawyer to sue a guy for the deductible ($500?) and rate increase ($100--if any)? And pay the lawyer $500--to get an uncollectible judgment of net $100? The only reason you'd be getting your insurance company to pay you anything (the FMV of your boat, less the deductible) is if the mechanic was out of business!
 

oldjeep

Admiral
Joined
May 17, 2010
Messages
6,455
Re: That sinking feeling

I'd notify my insurance, because they are the ones that I pay to insure my boat for $X - if they decide (rightly so) to get it from the mechanic or his insurance then they deal with it -same as a car accident. The insurance company dealing with all the crap is part of what you are paying for.

I agree that if someone sinks my boat worth $X that you should not expect that you are going to get $X + anything.

As for the bilge, every small runabout I've owned has a dash switch that you have to flip for power - regardless of whether the pump attached to it is automatic or not.
 
Top