Swap back to back lounger seat for captains chair??

[sutor623]

Hey guys just wondering if it is possible to take out the huge back to back lounger seat on the passenger side out and put a captains chair in there instead. How are these seats typically fastened? Floor is solid, but will Stainless steel wood screws hold the base of the captains chair down solid enough to be safe and not tear a hole in the floor? I doubt I will have room to get under there and nut and bolt the seat down.

 

[Bayou Dave]

You should be able to look under the existing seats to see how they fasten. My back to back just has stainless wood screws. Make sure you check the length of the existing screws. The Captains chair should fasten the same way.

 

[GA_Boater]

I can't tell in the pics if you have a molded (part of the deck) or a sit on top box. If the box sits on the deck, there are usually a pair of cleats running from side to side with wood screws holding the box down. Molded box is a lot of work to eliminate. Not impossible, but work.

Adding a pedestal needs good solid fastening or the Admiral will be laying on her back throwing stuff at YOU. Wood screws usually don't work.

 

[sutor623]

Thanks fellas.

Fortunately, GA, the box is mounted to the floor, not molded. That would be a nightmare!!! What would you propose that I do to fasten the pedestal? Do they normally put nuts and bolts in rather than just screwing it to the floor? When I re-did the post seats on my tinny, I doubled up the plywood where the seats bolt down and used the largest SS wood screws that I could fit into the bases. Been holding up for a few years now.

 

[Woodonglass]

If you do swap it, you'd for sure want to consider making a mount for the pedestal and glass it to the deck..Kinda like this maybe...

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Most are through bolted. Ive seen some that were screwed down..but that didnt turn out so well. Best not do it that way.

How is the drivers ped fastened down?

There was a thread a few years back that had a guy doing the same thing. He ended up glassing in a layer or two of plywood on deck with some T-nuts or something if I recall.

 

[sutor623]

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

You can see where the stringers are on this boat. Basically right under where the captains pedestal is located. I doubt there would be room underneath to do anything since the deck is setting right on the stringers. I am surely not trying to put more effort than this is worth into it. I just like the idea of the extra room when I go fishing.

Wood on glass, in the picture you sent how would you attach the fabricated mount onto the glass deck? Wouldnt it also have to be just screwed down and then glassed over? Just some added security I guess?

Does anyone have any ideas of another style of seat that could be fastened here, spin around to face forward or reverse, and not take up so much dang space???

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Thats the one I was talking about lol. Must have been a lag in the postings or something.

It was glassed directly to the deck and finished.

The problem is the deck. There just isnt any way to spread the load of something with such a high leverage point without being through bolted and fender washers ( better yet a plate ).

Thats why the above picture was glassed up..the deck isnt the deck there any more..its more load bearing/dispersing now. I guess you could come up with a plate that is screwed and glued down with a larger footprint. I dunno..some half inch alum can be painted and tapped with 1/4" threads..then bolt your base to that. Theoretically that should work. Check your deck status before you put too much time into it though. Water might have gotten into it from the cleats that the back to back is mounted to.

 

[sutor623]

Cool, sounds good. Thanks Ill check back in once I see the status of the deck.

Maybe a flip flop seat? This would be easy to screw down, seal the holes, and should be more stable huh? This would give me some more storage room too. Maybe a little narrower thought Im not sure I have the width there to fit this at 34".

 

[sutor623]

Guys, what about these? If the deck looks dry and solid would this be worth a shot? They are SS toggles.

 

[Woodonglass]

Guys, what about these? If the deck looks dry and solid would this be worth a shot? They are SS toggles.

It all depends on how thick and stable your deck material is.

 

[Woodonglass]

Wood on glass, in the picture you sent how would you attach the fabricated mount onto the glass deck? Wouldnt it also have to be just screwed down and then glassed over? Just some added security I guess?

Uhhmmm, you scuff the glass deck and then epoxy the mount to the deck. the Mount has T-Nuts on the bottom to which the seat is then bolted to. The Mount is then Glassed to the Deck making an extremely Strong and Stable mount.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Well..you could try them. If they dont work there is always plan B..

Or my personal favorite..plan "Zed". Thats when you mount about 8 10" deck cleats with lag bolts..get a killer leather desk chair..then spider lash that bad boy down with some anchor line. Reeclineomatic baby! ( or you can get a drafters chair..it has "high lift" movement action for the kids )

 

[sutor623]

Thanks guys. I am going to figure out how thick and stable my deck is and get back with you.

 

[GA_Boater]

In your first set of pics of the lounge seat, it looks like the seat base has some nice rounded corners. What you could do is shorten the box to make it square, keeping the rounded corners. Make a lid and mount it on the box with a hinge(s) and a latch. Use one of these

with a helm seat that matches or near matches the current helm seat. In the end you have a pair of helm seats, one on a pedestal and one on a storage box with a footprint about the same size as the seat.

Also in the first post, it looks like you have a fuel tank access panel. Can you remove it and get to the underside of the deck to add a doubler plate for pedestal mounting?. The tank space is probably a sealed well, but maybe not.

 

[produceguy]

If you do swap it, you'd for sure want to consider making a mount for the pedestal and glass it to the deck..Kinda like this maybe...

I think this is the best way if you cant get under the deck.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

A set of 'lazy suzan' seats..yea..but where da locking mechanism?

There may be a way..but some of you might not like it. ( just thinking here )

What if we cut a 1'x1' section of deck out ( where the ped base would be ). Reinforce the square ply and the underside of the deck..Mount the base..then cleat/screw/glue glass that sucker back into place. I mean..It would be kinda permanent..but should work.

 

[GA_Boater]

Illustration purposes only, YD. How 'bout this?

Although my butt and feet on the deck lock mine and only spin when I want. If the Admiral tucks her feet under, a locking one is desirable.

Your idea is a good way, too. With some thought, the pedestal base could be permanent or removable if needed.

 

[sutor623]

In your first set of pics of the lounge seat, it looks like the seat base has some nice rounded corners. What you could do is shorten the box to make it square, keeping the rounded corners. Make a lid and mount it on the box with a hinge(s) and a latch. Use one of these

with a helm seat that matches or near matches the current helm seat. In the end you have a pair of helm seats, one on a pedestal and one on a storage box with a footprint about the same size as the seat.

Also in the first post, it looks like you have a fuel tank access panel. Can you remove it and get to the underside of the deck to add a doubler plate for pedestal mounting?. The tank space is probably a sealed well, but maybe not.

Thanks GA. I was thinking about just mounting on a box if necessary. My only concern about that swivel mount is that it does not lock. Maybe I can add a small pedestal to the top of the lock box that has a swivel lock on it if need be.

As far as the fuel access panel, the stringers run down both sides of the panel so not sure if i hav access there or not......

 

[GA_Boater]

I figured getting to the underside of the deck through the tank access was a long shot.

I stuffed a locking swivel pic in the post above. If you go with a box and locking swivel. the box can have some depth. A pedestal, even a short one, would mean the box has to be shorter or the Admiral will sitting pretty high.