Stripers- Any experts

[brianvolt7]

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Always be courteous and tip generously, and...

Oh, wait a minute

You said STRIPERS!!!!

:redface:

-E

I will take that advice for the night before fishing.

 

[dingbat]

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Trust me....Use the bluegills and troll with planer boards. Hook them thru the nose and tail to control their swimming. Here are some pics from my buddies website. I know they are landlocked stripers...but the state record just got broken this summer at the same lake my buddy charters out of using the same method (42lbs). These are just some small ones.

We use Stripers that size for bait. Add another #20 - #25 and you'll have something

 

[Bricball]

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Remember these are "landlocked" and don't get the amount of forage that an ocean going striper gets. Plus these stripers have only been in our waters for about 3-4 yrs. and they are already in the 40 range. We love'em though!

 

[dingbat]

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Remember these are "landlocked" and don't get the amount of forage that an ocean going striper gets. Plus these stripers have only been in our waters for about 3-4 yrs. and they are already in the 40 range. We love'em though!

A #40 Striper is 16-17 years old. For them to be that big after only 3-4 years they would have been pushing #25 when stocked.

 

[brianvolt7]

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Did not make it to the river this weekend because my fishing buddy canceled. I did go on a quick trip to the lake and caught some trout.

I am trying to slip in one trip before hunting season starts.

I was looking at the Rapellas yesterday at the Rite Aid store I shop at. I saw some in the 5-6 inch range. Is this the size I should be looking at for Stripers?

 

[dingbat]

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Did not make it to the river this weekend because my fishing buddy canceled. I did go on a quick trip to the lake and caught some trout.

I am trying to slip in one trip before hunting season starts.

I was looking at the Rapellas yesterday at the Rite Aid store I shop at. I saw some in the 5-6 inch range. Is this the size I should be looking at for Stripers?

We don't use crank style baits much becouse we troll large numbers of line. One out of control CB can bring the day to an end very quickly.

When trolling just a couple of lines, sometime I'll run a Manns Stretch 25 or Stretch 30 on the WWB line. They catch, but not as effective as the parachute and umbrella rigs we drag.

 

[brianvolt7]

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We don't use crank style baits much becouse we troll large numbers of line. One out of control CB can bring the day to an end very quickly.

When trolling just a couple of lines, sometime I'll run a Manns Stretch 25 or Stretch 30 on the WWB line. They catch, but not as effective as the parachute and umbrella rigs we drag.

Oh wow, I have caught steelhead, salmon, trout, snapper, perch, greenling and probably another 20 or 30 species that I can?t remember right now. The problem is, I feel like I am lost with the terminology you just used.

"Manns Stretch", "WWB line", "parachute, umbrella rigs". Can you let me know what these are?

 

[fishrdan]

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So what are the stripers out in your area feeding on? From the posts so far, there are lots of opinions of what works in their area, according to what the stripers feed on in their area, but you need to find out what works in your area.

Out by me (below Hoover Dam) the big stripers feed on rainbow trout and you have to use big lures if you want to catch a big 20#+ striper. The little stripers on Lake Mead feed on shad, then in the winter the big ones feed on the stocked trout. Big stripers even feed on carp out here as I caught a 40 a 3#+ carp jammed down it's gullet.

If I had to venture a guess at what would work in your area it would be frozen anchovies, sardines, squid or 5-8" trolled lures, something to "match the hatch".

 

[ngt]

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I fish striper in the Tracy delta, Napa River, San Pablo bay, and the sloughs from Petaluma to Fairfield. If you are broke, frozen choves work fine. As long as you're not too far out towards the bay, I use a slider setup and whole chove with the head broken off. Steel leader with a size 4 or 5 hook. Same setup can be used from grass shrimp, bullhead, mudsuckers, clams, blood worms, ghost shrimp, sardines, etc..

Lots of little striper will pick smaller baits apart....so when people say go bigger on lures and bait and be patient, they are right.

Never fished in the Sac River, but I believe you can use two poles over there right? If so, toss out some bait on one and lure fish while you wait.

 

[dingbat]

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Oh wow, I have caught steelhead, salmon, trout, snapper, perch, greenling and probably another 20 or 30 species that I can?t remember right now. The problem is, I feel like I am lost with the terminology you just used.

"Manns Stretch", "WWB line", "parachute, umbrella rigs". Can you let me know what these are?

Manns Stretch deep diving trolling lures:
The Stretch 25 is 8" long and tracks at 25' deep. The Stretch 30 is 10" long and tracks at 30' deep

WWB: Stands for way, way back trolling lines. I run my WWB 250-300' behind the boat.

Parachute:
Is a large, lead headed, trolling bait that is typically rigged with a 6 or 9" lg. sassy shad. Weights vary from 1 oz. to over 32 oz.

Umbrella rig:
A trolling lure designed to look like a school of fish. The fish will hit the "weaker" fish that has fallen behind the school.

 

[fishrdan]

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WWB: Stands for way, way back trolling lines. I run my WWB 250-300' behind the boat.

Out here on the left coast,,, we call it long line trolling

How do you attach the chase baits to the umbrella? Just clipping them on through a section of the soft body with a snap swivel or something more permanent. I use a 4" piece of SS wire shoved down through the head of the shad body, pull it out 1" add a dab of super glue and shove it back in,,, curious on how others do it.

 

[dingbat]

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Out here on the left coast,,, we call it long line trolling

Remember, we're pulling 16-20+ lines at a time so we have multiple long lines. We use the WB, the WWB and even the WWTFB lines. The WB is @200-225?, 2-WWB @250- 275? and WWTFB @ 300?+ . Newbies get that fish.

How do you attach the chase baits to the umbrella? Just clipping them on through a section of the soft body with a snap swivel or something more permanent. I use a 4" piece of SS wire shoved down through the head of the shad body, pull it out 1" add a dab of super glue and shove it back in,,, curious on how others do it.

I use two methods. When using large snap swivels, we just stick the wire portion of the snaps thru ther heads and snap it back closed.
The other method I use is a homemade solution. I cut a piece of roughly 0.045 SS MIG welding wire (you need a wire that is stiff, but not too stiff. SS spring wire would work well here.) roughly 2? lg. and bend a small 3/8? ?check mark? on the bottom of it. I then crimp the opposite to a piece of #100 mono about 8? lg. that has a loop crimped on the end of it.

You push the end of the ?check mark? into the head of the shad ??-1? or so. The check mark will close down a bit during insertion but will open up when pulled on, locking the shad on the end of the wire. Works great. I made a jig to bend the wires up using nails pounded into a board. Bend them up, cut them down to size with a pair of side cutters. It takes no time to make up 50 or so.

 

[fishrdan]

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bend a small 3/8? ?check mark? on the bottom of it

16-20 lines... That's a lot of HW in the water. I'd hate to get one running across the spread.

I like the check mark thing. I put an eye in the 4" piece of SS wire, then glue the other end into the shad body. I'll have to try the check mark... thingy.

 

[dingbat]

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16-20 lines... That's a lot of HW in the water. I'd hate to get one running across the spread.

We're allowed two baits per line. Lots and lots of hardware behind the boat.

Stripers are too big of whimps to tangle much of anything. The way we set our drags it takes a good #25-#30 fish to pull drag. If you get a real good fish on, we typically only pull need to pull a couple of line to get a good lane to work the fish to the boat. A good angler, working together with yours truely, the Captain , goes a long way toward getting those big fish in the boat without incidence.

 

[jonesg]

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Around cape cod, eels are bass candy, drifted.
Tube and worm trolled.
Stripers won't chase bait so 3 mph is fast enough.
Good eatin.!

 

[Blackacid]

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I'm from Indiana and we have HUGE land locked stripers(35-45lb'ers).

Hey Bricball, where abouts are ya in Indiana? I'm in Fishers. Which lake are you guys trolling for this stripers? I've heard that Brookville has quite a few. I've got really small ones at Morse before but that was about it.

 

[brianvolt7]

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Never made it out fishing for the Stripers, hunting season arrived. I have taken a bunch of quail and two doves though. Looks like November for the river.

 

[slyhatch]

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California stripers love about a 1''x11/2'' piece of frozon anchovie on about a # 2 single hook fished on the bottom in about 15-20 ft. of water moving it a couple of turns everey 30 seconds.
Sly

 

[rivertripp]

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Man what a great fighting fish!! We catch them down on Pickwick at the TWRA dam. Using live bait does really well, but I did the best catching them by using a 4 inch or bigger rappala hard bait and make it dance on the top of the water. Also I have found that if you want a monster striper like the big ones in the pics above fish deep where it is a little bit colder using live bait or a big soft bait mimicking the local shad in your area. Good luck I hope you catch the hell out of them!!!