starter?

[Godsgift2drums]

i have a Volvo Penta Inboard motor. i got a CAR battery and was told that there is no difference between that and a marine battery as long as i didn't use accesories and seeing as how it has an alternator , it wouldn't make any difference. In case you haven't noticed im still new at this. Anyway, I went to start the motor, ( i DON'T have earmuffs, i know that if i run up the RPM'S it could burn up, but i don't know what they are called. Info on what the real name is, would be really useful as well.) and i can hear the starter returning. Not so much on actually hitting the flywheel. The motor does turn, i have turned it by hand so i know that it's not locked up. I think i may have to buy a new starter but i want to make sure that it is the starter and not the battery. Also , on my read out for the amps on my console reads at about 12 and it goes to 16. Not sure what that means.

 

[Godsgift2drums]

Re: starter?

I have also used a hammer and tapped on the starter to see if it would loosen it. No, i didn't POUND on it.

 

[Coors]

Re: starter?

i have a Volvo Penta Inboard motor. i got a CAR battery and was told that there is no difference between that and a marine battery as long as i didn't use accesories and seeing as how it has an alternator , it wouldn't make any difference. In case you haven't noticed im still new at this. Anyway, I went to start the motor, ( i DON'T have earmuffs, i know that if i run up the RPM'S it could burn up, but i don't know what they are called. Info on what the real name is, would be really useful as well.) and i can hear the starter returning. Not so much on actually hitting the flywheel. The motor does turn, i have turned it by hand so i know that it's not locked up. I think i may have to buy a new starter but i want to make sure that it is the starter and not the battery. Also , on my read out for the amps on my console reads at about 12 and it goes to 16. Not sure what that means.

did you run it with no muffs?

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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The problem is , is that the starter isn't turning the motor over. i turned it by hand and know it's not locked up. I can hear the starter retracting when i quit turning the key.

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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and i don't know what the real name of "muffs" is and was looking to see if anyone knew the real name of it.

 

[Bondo]

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Ayuh,......

I've always called'em Muffs,....

Btw,..... Starting the motor,.. At ALL,.. without suppling water to the motor, with Muffs,....
Will Burn Up the waterpump Impeller in Seconds,... And you'll be Burning the exhaust Hoeses at the same time...
It'll take only minutes to Fry the motor...
I don't even try to turn my motor over on the Starter without a supply of Water....

I'd Pull your Starter,+ Bench Test it..... It sounds like the Bendix Drive is Toast.....

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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i had an inkling that it was the bendix but i wanted to hear it from someone else who had the same idea. Thank you.

 

[PSS-Mag]

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Does the starter turn and not engage or is it not turning?

Turn but no engaging is bendix (AKA starter drive assembly).

No turn could be solenoid, brushes or bushings. (Test solenoid by jumping across the post.)


Turn till engaged then bind = Either bad starter gear (AKA starter drive assembly) or bad flywheel or bad starter bushings.

 

[PSS-Mag]

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BTW, Difference between marine and car battery.
Car battery wont hold up to the vibration and jarring very long before a plates comes loose and you have a dead cell or floating short. Always happens either when you are a long way from dock or ramp, and a storm is coming up........ Or when you think your going on a quick run, don't take any water, it's 110? out, 100% humidity and you decide to shut it off. Either way is bad, either way you are sitting a float and paddling for shore.

Also running with out water will burn up both of the impellers, you have 2 one in the lower unit and one in your water pump, all it takes is ideling for 30 seconds with out water or one kick back when you kill it...... End result means you'll be posting about over heating problem.

 

[Maclin]

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Godsgift2drums,

Do not try to start the engine wihtout a water supply.

Post more info on your boat's year configuration and drive and engine model#'s. All of this makes a difference as to where the impeller(s) is(are) and what other advice that could be given regarding your electrical problems.

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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When i turn the key, i can't hear it actually hitting the flywheel, but when i let go of the key, i can hear it returning. It' clinks louder coming back then it does going to the flywheel.

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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as of right now, all i know about the boat is that it is a barretta success. It's says 19' on title but i can only find two 18.75' boats. The motor is a volvo penta motor that says AQ131A and the drive says 275. i am still looking for more info on it.

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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is it worth rebuilding at all being 21 years old?

 

[Don S]

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is it worth rebuilding at all being 21 years old?

Take the starter to a starter repair shop and have them look at it.

Repairs are usually cheaper than replacement for marine starters.

 

[buggiedad_67]

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useing a car battery for starting is fine, i have used them for along time, the biggest differance is the marine battery is a deep cycle for trolling motors, nascar batterys are just car batterys and them take a heck of a lot of beating and banging than a boat will, just make sure it is mounted right and tied down,

 

[Coors]

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They make a combo battery.

 

[Don S]

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The type of battery has absolutely nothing to do with his problem. His starter is all rusty and needs repaired or replaced.

 

[Coors]

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All I did was clue in the thread hi-jack

 

[jerryjerry05]

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That outdrive needs a "Flushett" or muffs.You need a special kind to insure proper sealing at the water pick up.Also on the bottom of the drive is a 1/2 in hole that needs to be plugged up(make sure you pull it out).If you can't find the right kind use the kind with the heavy steel rod and tape the heck out of it with duct tape.Make sure your drive is dry or the tape won't stick.Or unhook the water line at the back of the motor and stick a hose in that.You only have 1 raw water pump.If you plan on keeping that boat put in a sea strainer to keep gunk out of the heat exchanger.It sounds like the starter is toast.Replace it.(expensive!!!!)
The real difference in a marine starting battery is the marine has different posts.If your worried about killing your battery with the accessories put in a second and a switch. Jerry

 

[Godsgift2drums]

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Today (or tonight i should say, considering i work nights) i took in my starter to work so show a fellow boater. Coincidentally, a co-worker of mine, use to rebuild starters. We took it apart and cleaned it out (pictures to follow soon) and used jumper cables to check it out. The gear spun, but was not pushing forward. This sound like a solenoid problem?