Starter or battery

[Pthieberger]

I have a problem and was wondering if someone out here could help....I had a bad starter and replaced it last week my evinrude started right up. I went out today to try to start it and it started after a couple turns then died which usually happens its an 89 finally got it going again and it cut off. When I went to start it again the starter engaged flywheel but only turned it one or two teeth now if I stay on the key it will turn it 3 or 4 teeth every couple seconds. Is this the sign of a low battery or what?

Thanks!

 

[boobie]

Re: Starter or battery

Don't stay on the key or you'll be buying another new starter. Check your battery( have load tested), your cables for being corroeded inside and all the connections on both the mtr and the battery.

 

[gm280]

Re: Starter or battery

There are a few things you could try to verify if it is your battery or not. Try jumping the starter with a good jumper cable bypassing the starter solenoid. Use a battery jumper cable from your battery positive terminal to the actual starter. Also check out your ground cable to make sure it is clean and tight to tfrom the battery to the engine as well. This will verify if your starter solenoid and cables are working properly from your battery or not. If that doesn't work or gives you the same results, check to see if when you are trying to start the engine what the voltage is. It shouldn’t drop off much more then around 9-10 volts. Anything more is a bad battery, but could equally be a shorter starter as well. But being how you just changed your starter, I would suspect the battery. Take it to an auto parts store and have them run a load/capacity test on it for verification.

 

[Pthieberger]

Re: Starter or battery

Thanks for the answers so i charged a battery overnight and hooked it up it tried to turn over once and then after that the same problem, could it be a bad starter right out of the box i just don't understand why it is trying to turn i tightened all the connections and that didnt help any either. Anymore ideas....also the nut on the negative side of battery is getting warm if this matters or not

 

[emdsapmgr]

Re: Starter or battery

Before you take the starter back, possible you have a bad starter solenoid. The internal contacts inside the solenoid will eventually burn after many years (get carbon deposits on the tips.) Then these tips get too much carbon on them, they won't transfer current properly to the starter and it will seem that the starter is turining slow.

 

[gm280]

Re: Starter or battery

Before you take the starter back, possible you have a bad starter solenoid. The internal contacts inside the solenoid will eventually burn after many years (get carbon deposits on the tips.) Then these tips get too much carbon on them, they won't transfer current properly to the starter and it will seem that the starter is turining slow.

You are absolutely correct about the starter solenoid. That is why I suggested he jumpers a cable from the battery positive to the starter to eliminate the starter solenoid. If he does that and it turns over easily, then yes he has a starter solenoid failure. But I think he did that and had the same results. He also stated that he has a ground wire getting warm as well. He should remove that ground wire and clean those contact areas very well and reinstall them and tighten them to eliminate that cable as the problem as well IF that cable is in good condition. If all other components are known good, he still could have a bad starter. He should do all these things and even take the starter back to the store for a test... So easy to suggest things when not there to see what is truly going on and find the actual culprit... One more issue is he needs to verify that he can turn the engine over without any problems to verify that his engine itself isn't the problem...

 

[64osby]

Re: Starter or battery

Charging a battery will not help if the battery is bad. It could have one cell that is dead. It would show an output of about 10-11v after charging. It could also turn the starter once or twice before it fails to turn the starter. A quick check with a multimeter can determine if you have a bad cell. A good battery should measure from 12v up to about 13.5.

Voltages are approximate.

 

[Crosbyman]

Re: Starter or battery

warm cable ...hummm warm = watts P= Resistance x i2 ...probably bad contacs has indicated or.... bad cable should be suspect ...retest jumper starter directly with (good) jumper cables

 

[Pthieberger]

Re: Starter or battery

Hey everyone thanks for all your responses i figured out what it was the factory sent a bad starter from the get go. I replaced the Starter and she took right off

Thanks!!