Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ... :)

[JoLin]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

Tough question on the survey. I don't know what the right answer is. I'd be a bit leery of using a survey commissioned by a seller I don't know, with a surveyor I didn't hire, supplied by a broker who has a vested interest in the sale. The advantage of hiring your own surveyor is that he is the only party in the transaction who's working only for YOU and nobody else.

I'd be curious to hear what others think, but I don't think I'd buy somebody else's survey. That's just me.

 

[Hai Nhi]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

I think I'll get a surveyor too. It's just that this survey is from the previous would-be buyer, not the seller nor the broker.

I hired a surveyor once and he didn't do anything "much" but still charge me full price for it. So if I hire someone else, it's gonna be a stranger again. :/

Nhi

 

[JoLin]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

Yeah, I was a little off on that- of course it was the buyer who commissioned the survey. I hear you. I hate to spend money unnecessarily, too.

I dunno- flip a coin?

 

[tpenfield]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

I know CA may be a different ballgame with surveyors, etc., and it certainly seems like the prices are a bit higher than elsewhere . . .

You could search for some surveyor's names on NAMS or SAMS and then do a Google search to see what folks are saying about them on various forums (like this one).

If you had reasonable confidence in getting a good surveyor, I would go for another survey, and gladly accept the prior survey, just as a reference point.

FWIW - when I bought my boat with cabin & twin engines last Fall, we did not envision using the cabin for an eating area . . . probably would go ashore to a restaurant for meals and do lunch, etc. out on deck.

Also, twin engines with single props should have one of the engines as 'counter rotating' so the torque is balanced. dual props do not have that issue. so, something to be aware of.

I hope it all works out. Keep us posted :thumb:

 

[JoLin]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

Problem is, Nhi will be charged to receive the previous survey... he said about half the price of a new one. I imagine the guy who had the survey done is dictating that (I would). I also agree that survey prices seem really high. I'd expect to pay maybe $20./foot for the most expensive guy around.

 

[Hai Nhi]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

Good morning Ted. How do you usually use your 330 (day/weekends/whole week)? Is yours an express cruiser or a cuddy cabin type? I read your website about how you rate brands and Wellcraft is in A, Sea ray & Regal are both B's, which is pretty interesting. It's just that I was looking at a 2001 Wellcraft 2600 Martinique the other day with brand new engine 2-3 years ago with about 50 hrs for much cheaper than both the Sundancer 270 & Regal 2760 I'm looking at now (about $20k with a painted trailer). When polled up in forums, especially on Sea Ray's (clubsearay.com), no one voted for Wellcraft. Hahaha.

John, over here hull survey costs roughly about $13-$15/ft, each engine about $150. When I talked to the broker yesterday, she said on top of that is the charge for each outdrive, and haul out fee. That's why I figured close to a thousand.

When I did mine with the Bayliner 24', engine guy only "looked" at the outdrive, without taking anything apart to inspect inside. Is that normal?

How would a hull & an engine surveyors survey the boat & engines?

Nhi

 

[tpenfield]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

Hey Nhi:

Since we have not actually used our 330 yet, we have not developed any sort of pattern. Only anticipate staying overnight for a day or two at a time. Technically, my boat is a cuddy on steroids . . . no aft cabin, but 5'7" standing room in the cabin, enclosed head, v-berth/dining, etc. So, it could sleep 2 in the cabin, whereas a cruiser could sleep 4 or 6 in the cabin.

I did my vessel & engine survey, plus compression test, plus the haul-out for $925 total (I think the breakout was $525 + $150 + $250, accordingly)

 

[Hai Nhi]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

When they do engine test, do they open up the outdrive to inspect inside (not sure what in it) or just a visual inspection?

Surveyors around where the regal I'm offering on charge $165 for engine, $100 for out drive, each.

 

[Hai Nhi]

Re: Single engine / twin comparisons revisit ...

Can anyone please tell me how much the soldboat.com average for a 2000 2760 in CA? Overall in good condition. All options accept genny. Engines both are about 300 hrs, good compression, out drives epoxied in 2011, new single props same time. No trailer.

Again asking price is $31k. Nadaguides shows pretty low price but some of you up here said it's not that realistic anyway.

I'd just like to have a feeling what would be a "safe" fair price.

Also, I remember someone mentioned to make sure a couple of items (not sure if it's engine related or outdrive related) be replaced by seller.

Thanks

Nhi