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GasCan II

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Opinions: What do you think , does it make any sense to run Salt Away through my Yamaha hpdi 150s while the boat is in the slip with the motors up. You think it does anything but make me feel good? Thanks for any replies.
 

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salt away would help, however how are you going to run it thru your motors while you are in the water?
 

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Salt Away is on the shelf because people spend money on it.----Plain water dissolves lots of salt.-----The white stuff you see around these motors is Aluminum Oxide.----Not sure if there is a potion that gets rid of these corrosion products.
 

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No commercial product or other liquid substance can move salt crystals from a surface by the act of dissolving them. The salt crystals, in solution, must physically be moved off the surface at obvious exit points.

Salt crystals cooperate much better at being moved if they are dissolved. The major element required to move dissolved salt crystals off a surface is gravity. If a liquid containing dissolved salt crystals is not allowed to completely exit the surface by gravity, they will remain on the surface.

Because salt is soluble, it can be dissolved in almost any liquid. Water is the most common substance used to dissolve salt for many uses. Due to the unique characteristics of water, it has a difficult time moving dissolved salt crystals off a surface. One of the characteristics of water is its high level of surface tension. Water surface tension is evident when looking at a >bead= of water. It is the tension that holds the bead together. Salt crystals (and other soluble substances) dissolved in water attach themselves to the surface tension. Since water can evaporate, and salt cannot, the salt remains on surfaces long after the water evaporates.

Salt crystals are a mineral of the earth and cannot be destroyed. There is no other element of the earth or a product that can cause salt crystals (and other soluble minerals) to disappear or vanish from a surface by dissolving them. But they can be moved from place to place. In the effort to completely move salt from a surface by dissolving it in a Salt-Away solution, the salt must be moved while in solution either by pushing with pressure methods, by vacuuming or by gravity to exit the areas of the surface. After it is moved to another location, it will stay there until moved again by another force; air, water, humans, animals, nature.
 

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The white powder / crystals in marine engines are often mistakenly identified as SALT.----Salt dissolves away with water.-----This stuff that won't go away is not a salt product.
 

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The white powder / crystals in marine engines are often mistakenly identified as SALT.----Salt dissolves away with water.-----This stuff that won't go away is not a salt product.
This is a saltwater used motor with lots of run hours and conveniently flushed for 10 minutes with fresh water soon after returned to terra firme. Nope, water will not disolve it no matter if flushed on muffs while geared forward and motor revving at high rpm for a full day. Must be manually or mechanically scraped off..

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If this is not a huge salt crust, then what is it ? Salt Away and any other discaler won't remove it if flushed for as long as you want, guess what, the product needs to recirclulate throughout the whole water passage to do its homework right disolving it till the water passage becomes fully unclogged.

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They are ----Corrosion products -----This is not salt.------Salt does not stay behind when salt water goes through an engine.------Google ----"Aluminum Oxide" ----See what can get rid of it.
 

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They are ----Corrosion products -----This is not salt.------Salt does not stay behind when salt water goes through an engine.------Google ----"Aluminum Oxide" ----See what can get rid of it.
Had a technical Email chat with the Flush Away CEO, sent her 2 pics of the same issue found in 2 different motors, her answer was : fresh water nor Salt Away won't remove nothing already heavily built inside the water passages. Flush Away will be good for new motors run on saltedwater, taken out and flushed with a muff kit soon after returning to terra firme.

If it where mini alum oxide accumulations being removed/scrapped off during use, wouldn't the water passages show sign of some diameter reduction ?

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If it where mini alum oxide accumulations being removed/scrapped off during use, wouldn't the water passages show sign of some diameter reduction ?

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The entire surface of aluminum is covered with aluminum oxide (alumina). It is harder than the aluminum itself. Used as grit on sand paper.

Aluminum Oxide causes bolts to stick and the white "acne" you see on the surface of "corroding" aluminum, but it's not the powdery accumulation that people wrongly identify as "salt" buildup.

The white powdery buildup is actually what is known as crystallization fouling. Made up primary of calcium carbonate, calcium sulfate and magnesium hydroxide deposits.

 

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salt away would help, however how are you going to run it thru your motors while you are in the water?
I will be in the water but, the motors will be tilted up out of the water.The motors are flushed out with freshwater every time as soon as I get in the slip, than tilted up.
 

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Had a technical Email chat with the Flush Away CEO, sent her 2 pics of the same issue found in 2 different motors, her answer was : fresh water nor Salt Away won't remove nothing already heavily built inside the water passages. Flush Away will be good for new motors run on saltedwater, taken out and flushed with a muff kit soon after returning to terra firme.

If it where mini alum oxide accumulations being removed/scrapped off during use, wouldn't the water passages show sign of some diameter reduction ?

Happy Boating
Thank you
 

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This is a saltwater used motor with lots of run hours and conveniently flushed for 10 minutes with fresh water soon after returned to terra firme. Nope, water will not disolve it no matter if flushed on muffs while geared forward and motor revving at high rpm for a full day. Must be manually or mechanically scraped off..

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If this is not a huge salt crust, then what is it ? Salt Away and any other discaler won't remove it if flushed for as long as you want, guess what, the product needs to recirclulate throughout the whole water passage to do its homework right disolving it till the water passage becomes fully unclogged.

Happy Boating
Thanks
 

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Have to consult the 11 year old grandson.----2 years ago he did a science fair project.----Had salt and sand mixed together.----Added hot water to dissolve the salt then filtered out the sand.-----Boiled the water to get the salt back.----Think I will have him try to do the same with some aluminum oxide ( looks like salt ) off some sand paper.
 

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I think its not salt or aluminum oxide. I think its calcium carbonate (lime scale) It builds up in things that caontain hot water because calcium is less soluble in hot water then in cold. I get a lot of it in my hot water tank. I read one post on another site where ironically it turned out the guys motor got clogged with this stuff BECAUSE he flushed after use. Turned out his fresh water was very hard and had lots of disolved minerals. Not suggesting not to flush, just something to keep in mind. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out what the deposits are with some simple chemistry tests.
 

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Whatever that whitish substance it's called will screw your beloved motor the latter no matter if religiously flushed with fresh water after use.


Motors having internal anodes will suffer severe salt clogs which will overheat that water passage yes or yes...

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