Restore or die trying!

storem078

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I 'm new to this forum. I wanted to post about a project that I?m going to undertake, but would like to tell you a few things about me first. I'm originally from Long Island, NY, Amityville to be exact. While I lived in New York, I lived around the water most of my life. Ignorant of being surrounded by water, never have I attempted to go out on the water and or own a boat. A few years prior to leaving New York I went Bass fishing several times and dabbled with a bit of Trout fishing (fly-fishing) and became addicted. As most of you can probably assume, I got the itch for the water. Eventually I moved to Florida where I reside now, and for the last 8 years I have been trying to buy a small Bass boat. Well financially things haven?t been in my favor, so I have decided to do a project slowly overtime. On EBay I purchased a 1984 16.4 foot (aluminum) Bass Attacker by Sea Nymph (I will post pictures once I figure out how) the boat came with a descent trailer (I think). The boat also came with a M55B Tohatsu outboard motor, but it doesn't work. At the price of $760.00 I probably got shafted but my excitement outweighs my loss I believe. My 7 year old son and my father want to help me on this project.

The previous owner was going to make the boat into a flats boat and he began converting/restoring the boat but only got as far as ripping the flooring out and partially carpeting the panels. He told me the engine didn't work but it just recently stopped working and he believed it was the stator. It looks like parts are going to be hard to find for the engine. With the advice of one of the members on this forum (and after countless of hours searching for a stator on the internet) I have decided to take a loss on the engine and find another.

Anyway I'd like to post pictures of this project and my progress here. I would appreciate any advice. I have been reading the forums extensively and there are a lot of knowledgeable members here.
 

storem078

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Re: Restore or die trying!

Okay well since ive joined this forum I have not posted much. I have been very busy with work and such there seems to always be not enough time to do things that I enjoy.

I have been trying to get the boaters language down and get a feel for the forums so I have been reading alot. I have picked up a few phrases here and there "starboard, aft, transom, bow, out board and the word I have learned despise most galvanic corrosion" Oh yea I have been reading...and reading..and by far Iboats has the smartest crew of advice givers around. I have learned so much in the past few weeks.

I have learned that when it comes to this project due to my work schedule I will probably be working alone.

Well enough of the nonsense.. ive started working on the boat. I removed the worthless Tohatsu 55 hp motor (think its the stator) revealing the transom area. I noticed the boat was possibly submerged in saltwater in the past. There is a water line running about half of the interior of the boat. The foam seems to be dry, but there is sand and salt everywhere. So I start by power washing the entire boat. I tried to remove all of the sand and salt (sea shells) from anywhere i can reach with the power washer.

I have noticed some corrosion on the rear plate where the engine sits on. The transom is totally rotted and has a colony of termites. I also noticed a few pin holes due to the corrosion. I have read mostly all the articles on patching aluminum hulls, corrosion, painting, and engine repair.

On the left and right rear of the boat I have removed about 12 inches of foam to get a better estimate of how bad is the corrosion. It looks like the corrosion only made it as far as the rear plate (outter hull). SHOULD I RUN?

Sorry I cannot run ...this is personal now. I have sanded the most of the corrosion away using a wire brush and equiv drill tip. I removed the rotted transom which is 1" 1/2 thick. I purchased two pieces of treated plywood which i will use the old piece as a template and replace.

Ok ... I have read so much on dealing with corrosion(pitting). I have cut the most serious damage piece of hull away (size of about 1" square). I purchased that welding material HTS 2000 and used a few bars (havnt welded in years). The corrosion is on the side rear of the hull and I dont have the luxury of flipping the boat on its side or turning upside down so I attempted to weld at a 90 degree angle (big mistake). I replaced the cut portion with a thin aluminum square and I riveted the piece with the piece being on the inside of the hull. I riveted the piece in place first and Im glad I did ... the heat began to warp the thin aluminum, but the rivets held it square against its mark. The HTS 2000 is no push over....the stuff freakin works... I am sold and will purchase more as soon as I have time. I originally just purchased a few bars from someone who was selling it in lesser quantities on ebay.

anyway i welded the piece on and two other pin holes i discovered after I removed the transom.

I will post digital pictures as soon as I have time to sit down and get my camera hooked up and such....

quick questions to anyone reading this...
based on what I have written should I turn and run while i have a chance?
or should I continue to follow through and learn a few things... and eventually maybe even have a really nice boat..?
 

Coors

Captain
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Re: Restore or die trying!

I dunno, that stuff sounds like the aluminum brazing rods that i found and liked; for NON-STRUCTURAL alum repairs. When I read specs that state" ...up to#### tensile" etc; sounds like my cable company- up to...actually get 10% of that.
I use it for making brackets, etc; things not stressed a lot.

Imho, I think you need a mig welder for the hull. With backer plates.
 

fuzzeywiggler

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Re: Restore or die trying!

You could probably part out the motor and get some decent money back.

Never ever, ever buy a broken motor because someone said it was running last year (I made that mistake 2 new pistons and rods...) Just don't wan't you to buy another broken motor just because they said it ran last year.

Fuzzey
 

storem078

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Re: Restore or die trying!

im going to attempt to sell this motor for parts...thanks for the advice... Im such a sucker. He probably saw me coming a mile away...

But my mistakes today will make me a better/more prepared sucker for tomorrow.
 

redfury

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Re: Restore or die trying!

Hey, we all have to start somewhere right? Hopefully we learn enough from our mistakes to not make new ones as readily.
 

oops!

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Re: Restore or die trying!

Hey, we all have to start somewhere right? Hopefully we learn enough from our mistakes to not make new ones as readily.

walk away from the boat ....and you learn how to quit.....

fix the boat....and youll learn more about yourself than you ever knew....


there is enough boat savvy in the archives to get you thru anything !

keep reading....and keep working
 

fixb52s

Chief Petty Officer
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Re: Restore or die trying!

Where in Florida are you? There are a lot of boat jukyards in the Hudson/Tarpon Springs area that might be able to help.

Craigslist here is full of boats if you decide to sell stuff. The Tampa area always has a lot on it.

As for restoring or scrapping, do what you want. Like Oops said, you will learn a lot, and will know just what you have. There are too many boats out there that have been patched up wrong, and a lot that are good, but my feeling is part of the deal of restoring is the pride you get when you finish. Look at Lundnisswa's project. His boat is better than new with about 5 months of work. He would never find the same boat in as nice of shape as his is now. My Chris Craft is just about done, and I can say I went through a lot with it. There was many times I just wanted to give it up, but kept pressing. Now I have a solid boat that looks pretty good for being 22 year old. I probably could not get my money back out of it, but I plan to run it for a few years, so it's no biggie.

Also, listen to the advice here. There is YEARS of knowledge to share, and I suggest you listen to the old salts, because doing it right the first time is gold.​
 
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