? quality of these fish maps ?

dgopetactical

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Re: ? quality of these fish maps ?

You gotta watch also with these gps/plotters most of the published map info is pre 2001 even wth the updates. its not just the paper map. I guess they think it make no sense to map a lake etc every year they like to update the gas stops and where to eat thats about it.:) I update my paper maps myself its better that way.
 

Expidia

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Re: ? quality of these fish maps ?

I went with the Hummingbird model 797c2 today.

http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/expidia/

I was going to go with a model or two down for $650 but the dealer had the 797 in stock and I didn't want to take a chance on not having one to use for the rest of the summer, if I had to wait for a lesser model.

$999 was $350 more than I figured to spend but this model is their top of the line with all the features I was looking for plus "side imaging". The dealer was more than fair to me on my outboard swap out, so I didn't mind paying list for it . . . at least he had them in stock. Made a few calls to some other retail stores and not many in stock anyway. Not worth it to me try and save $50-75 bucks.

I Installed it today already. Screen is 5 inches, color and crystal clear. The included side imaging transducer sure is a "Big Mother". We'll see how gimmicky side imaging is shortly!

I also just ordered the Navionics HotMap Platium card for another $199 off the web.

Went for an extra $50 for the Platinum version over the Premium card. Be interesting to see what the enhanced graphics on these cards will look like on this "sweet" screen . . . Of course, just got an email back saying "usually ships in 2-4 weeks" . . . that kinda s*cks!
But at least I have the installed base maps until the card comes.

So I had the 797c2 in my hand, new in an unsealed box. Tried it out on top of the boats dash (and I knew I couldn't let go of it) . . . That's why I didn't want to take a chance on ordering a cheaper model. Most sites say certain models are in stock or we'll get it for you in a few days . . . Ya right!. They are just drop shipping the item from the manufacturer and most items are on back order this time of year!

At least there is also a Humminbird promo going on for a few models where they send you the Humminbird WeatherSense add on unit (retails $79) We''ll see if this is just a gimmick or it actually does something? Oh, and allow another 4-6 weeks for this to be shipped too.

Kinda tough when the Northeast has about 6 weeks of summer left already!

Thanks to all who responded . . . to think I started this thread in search of a $12.95 paper map! Ouch . . .
 

gonefishie

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Re: ? quality of these fish maps ?

I went with the Hummingbird model 797c2 today.

Thanks to all who responded . . . to think I started this thread in search of a $12.95 paper map! Ouch . . .

Dammmmmmm.....My bad dude! :D. See that's what happen when you start fishing big waters? You start spending big money. :D Lets us know how that side immaging working. I would love to have one to play with. Does that unit have a seperate gps receiver or is it built-in?

Oh yeah! may I interest you in some Shimano Chronarch reels and G-Loomis rods??........just kidding.:D
 

Expidia

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Dammmmmmm.....My bad dude! :D. See that's what happen when you start fishing big waters? You start spending big money. :D Lets us know how that side imaging working. I would love to have one to play with. Does that unit have a separate gps receiver or is it built-in?

Oh yeah! may I interest you in some Shimano Chronarch reels and G-Loomis rods??........just kidding.:D

Thx . . . of course it is pouring here today. From what I've read in various places around the web, some found the internal receivers to drop the signal sometimes (it comes right back after you've left your lower end unit on the other side of a sand bar or reef though, hahahha).

For me I like external anyway because if I ever get a bigger boat and have to mount the unit in a lower cabin or under a top, I'll be ready to go.

When I spend this kind of money on accessories . . . I plan to use them in future boat upgrades.




Hummingbird actually only makes internals for a few small units. I figured there must be a reason they do that or at least until the competition forces them to offer internals too. It's about the size of a small round drink coaster.

Nice well documented manual. It's huge! But that's because you have to flip it over turn and turn it upside down every time you pick it up since the other half is in French (at least I think it's French). First time I've ever seen French for the entire other half of a manual (are French people big sport fisherman?)

This kinda of ticks me of though, since I need to keep flipping it around every time I pick it up as the pictures on each side of the cover are identical. And as a reference tool I'll carry a small telephone book. I might half to take a single edge razor blade and chop it in half. Big waste of resources IMO to send a book this size to U.S. buyers 1/2 of it wasted. It's over a 1/2 inch thick.

Lotsa actual pics inside the manual too. If side imaging works the way the pics depict is will be pretty cool, because the pictures look like actual pictures of the underlying structure like bridges, fallen timber, a "swimming pool" etc.

I always wondered how side imaging works with respect to the two other transducer beams going out at right angles from the sides of the boat. What about the left beam hitting my outboard, since the transducer is still mounted on the typical place to the right side of the transom?

You actually have to tilt the outboard slightly in some cases while imaging, but that shouldn't be a problem for me because side imaging takes place at speeds of about 2-6 mph. My outboard's lower unit sits well off the transom anyway in a vertical position leaving a big gap to shoot through (I think).

The parts manager at the dealer said side imaging is so powerful . . . I'll be able to see inside the stomach of the fish and see what they had for lunch!

I think he was kidding, ya think? But if I see "escargot or "croissants in any of their stomachs, I'll really be a believer in this new technology . . . :eek:)

http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/expidia/
 

Expidia

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Re: ? quality of these fish maps ?

Thought I'd post a link to another thread where I have been discussing the merits of the Humminbird Sidescan unit that I purchased from the thread and now that I've had a chance to use it for the past two months.

This other thread was started because I received P*ss Poor service from Navionics customer service dept. But it has evolved into a discussion of how much I like the Humminbird unit. Seems you have no choice but to use the Navionics cards. But don't pay their rip off $149-199 prices for their cards.

Buy the same card (2006 Hotmaps Premium version available now a Cabelas.co for $59.95) or if they run out, buy it off Ebay when one appears. Buy the year old versions which are pretty much the same. They load on a few more lakes that you are not going to use anyway in the current versions.

Here is the link to the other thread if anyone is interested:

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?p=1494345&posted=1#post1494345
 
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Re: ? quality of these fish maps ?

Those maps to that site look like ones that you can just get at your local Bass Pro, Walmart, Marina, or fish store. Your best bet is to go local just to make sure you have the most up to date and the correct one for your area. Those are good maps. I live in Tennessee and they have 3 fishing books (east, middle, and west tennessee lakes) and it really shows the lakes in great detail. You should see if that have anything like that where you live. I think they were only $20 or so. I like to get it and the part of the lake I'm going, I'll copy that page. I'll highlight certain spots I want to try and then write notes on it as the day goes by. Then when I get home write down those notes.
 

roscoe

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Re: ? quality of these fish maps ?

You can get most of those maps directly from Fishing Hot Spots dot com fishinghotspots.com/
 
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