Purchasing a 1971 23' Winner, no engine, great shape...

[bethyoung]

They might mean.-----Sitting on axles where it is now.----Tires have sunk into the mud and axles are touching the ground !----Sitting for a long time.-----Yes there are many boats that sit in marinas , known as a " cheap cottage " with like minded neighbors.----Boats do not have to roar around.-----There is no such thing as a perfect boat.-----There is one that is ---" perfect for you "---as they say.

I love it, thanks!

 

[JASinIL2006]

I have to say, I'm kind of impressed that you're even still considering this project, given the feedback you've received!

I do think it will cost more than you anticipate just to get this boat in shape to sit at a dock so you can chill and hang out. (I also think that will get pretty boring very quickly.) I also wonder if you've looked into where you might dock this boat and how much that might cost? I trailer my boat, but I imagine the cost of a wet slip could be substantial.

I replaced the transom, floor and flotation foam in my much-smaller boat, and it still took several hundred hours and cost several thousand dollars (and I already had many of the tools needed for job).

If you're looking for a project boat, you can find many that are much more reasonable for a first-timer to take on, and your net investment will be a lot less.

 

[bethyoung]

I have to say, I'm kind of impressed that you're even still considering this project, given the feedback you've received!

I do think it will cost more than you anticipate just to get this boat in shape to sit at a dock so you can chill and hang out. (I also think that will get pretty boring very quickly.) I also wonder if you've looked into where you might dock this boat and how much that might cost? I trailer my boat, but I imagine the cost of a wet slip could be substantial.

I replaced the transom, floor and flotation foam in my much-smaller boat, and it still took several hundred hours and cost several thousand dollars (and I already had many of the tools needed for job).

If you're looking for a project boat, you can find many that are much more reasonable for a first-timer to take on, and your net investment will be a lot less.

If you knew me, you would not be surprised that I'm still interested. I like a challenge but even more so I like to make poor choices. With that being said, I'm not convinced she's mine yet. I do know the costs involved with only storing her and paying for a slip at a local marina, I'm "helping" build a houseboat there and have been for the last year. I really appreciate this advice.

 

[JASinIL2006]

I would add, fixing up my boat was one of the more satisfying things I've done. The sense of accomplishment and the knowledge I have of my boat are really priceless. There were times during the rebuild where I was not so happy, though...

 

[bethyoung]

That's so cool. Share a pic!

 

[JASinIL2006]

That's so cool. Share a pic!

Check out the link in my signature block (at the bottom of this message). It contains lots of info about my restoration from beginning to end, including my many clueless questions that were patiently answered by many members of this board. My project was fairly minor compared to many (including yours), but it was still an odyssey....

 

[racerone]

The project I am doing ( 17' go fast ) has soaked up untold hrs.-----Just the 1/2" special foam board for the floor , carbon fiber , kevlar and the epoxy to glue it in add up to well over $600.-----But when it is done the grand kids will have smiles as wide as the boat.

 

[bethyoung]

That's wonderful!!!!

 

[Lectro88]

I have been watching and reading in silence.
I also am not sure whether to admire you for still wanting to proceed.
OR
agree that you must enjoy making bad decisions… as you admitted..

not to poke fun
This is like several cartoons, in disbelief.
Droopy, tom&jerry, peppy le pew and pink panther all in 1 And Gilligan’s island boat to boot.

it’s a really Cool boat and it’s over my head,
But I am just specially crazy enough to take on such a project. TOOO..

if you keep your head of steam you will have a humdinger nice boat that is truly worth 1/4 of the cash that you spend on/in it. And just forget about the hours, I’d estimate 1000’s hrs. Not hundreds, for hours.
and I speculate 3-5 years if you are not retired and wealthy… if you don’t lose your drive.
If you truly love it and satisfaction of accomplishment helps you will be okay.
And you will only be out money and time.
hopefully you won’t let it sit and rot away again after you spend 15-30k restoring it.
And being in Mass. And hiring a good bit out… those numbers may be on the low side.


Enjoy, good luck and keep posting.
You should be able to get plenty of advice from the vast knowledge on this site.

 

[Scott Danforth]

Also, no motor/engine is being sold with this boat. It's selling for $1500 OBO.

That's my problem, I think it's so cool. I don't know much about boats at all but I've been learning as I've been helping to build a houseboat that we just got onto a hull and it's parked at a marina.

So, when someone says it's sitting on axles, don't all boats sit like that when not in water or no?

you need to read links 24, 25, 29, 2, 3, 4a, and 4b before you get excited about that suck-hole for cash and time

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here is link 14. https://forums.iboats.com/threads/1995-sea-ray-220-signature-deck-and-stringer-restoration.495449/

also, side-bar reading the link in my signature. my boat restoration/modification took 5 years and about $15k and all the boat needed was new interior and exhaust manifolds.... however as I addressed each system,

 

[Scott Danforth]

I am not any of those things but I can hire people, watch vidoes and or give my selfish children something to do with their spare time!

if you hire someone to restore it, you will spend more money than buying a brand new 530 Scout ($2.5M)

 

[Lectro88]

Also the movie. Money Pit.
comes to mind.

 

[Pierce89]

Do itttt and keep us up to date on the progress with pictures. I can help you with any questions. I had 0 boat restoration/fiberglass experience before restoring my 1976 boat, and could have saved alot of time by reading less about fiberglass and just jumping in and practicing instead. It took 2.5 months to complete working around a dayjob.

It doesn't make sense to hire any of the work out though. If it was closer to Miami I'd buy it but I'm a sucker for old hulls.

 

[bethyoung]

I have been watching and reading in silence.
I also am not sure whether to admire you for still wanting to proceed.
OR
agree that you must enjoy making bad decisions… as you admitted..

not to poke fun
This is like several cartoons, in disbelief.
Droopy, tom&jerry, peppy le pew and pink panther all in 1 And Gilligan’s island boat to boot.

it’s a really Cool boat and it’s over my head,
But I am just specially crazy enough to take on such a project. TOOO..

if you keep your head of steam you will have a humdinger nice boat that is truly worth 1/4 of the cash that you spend on/in it. And just forget about the hours, I’d estimate 1000’s hrs. Not hundreds, for hours.
and I speculate 3-5 years if you are not retired and wealthy… if you don’t lose your drive.
If you truly love it and satisfaction of accomplishment helps you will be okay.
And you will only be out money and time.
hopefully you won’t let it sit and rot away again after you spend 15-30k restoring it.
And being in Mass. And hiring a good bit out… those numbers may be on the low side.


Enjoy, good luck and keep posting.
You should be able to get plenty of advice from the vast knowledge on this site.

Thank you, this is great. And I just bought the boat which is no surprise to anyone in an out of my life.

 

[bethyoung]

Do itttt and keep us up to date on the progress with pictures. I can help you with any questions. I had 0 boat restoration/fiberglass experience before restoring my 1976 boat, and could have saved alot of time by reading less about fiberglass and just jumping in and practicing instead. It took 2.5 months to complete working around a dayjob.

It doesn't make sense to hire any of the work out though. If it was closer to Miami I'd buy it but I'm a sucker for old hulls.

I DID IT! Bought it. I'm in Maryland not Miami. Wishful thinking ha ha ha. Thanks for the comments. I won't be hiring anyone to do the work

 

[bethyoung]

Almost bought this one first for $1,000: Boat was in the water in 20. I believe it needs a new throttle cable. Motor turns over, doesn't start. Inboard. Titles for boat and trailer. 1000 obo as is or trade.

 

[Scott Danforth]

Almost bought this one first for $1,000: Boat was in the water in 20. I believe it needs a new throttle cable. Motor turns over, doesn't start. Inboard. Titles for boat and trailer. 1000 obo as is or trade.

and guaranteed $3k to repair the hull.

you may want to read this https://forums.iboats.com/threads/perspective-of-fiberglass-boat-design-life.683703/

 

[bethyoung]

and guaranteed $3k to repair the hull.

you may want to read this https://forums.iboats.com/threads/perspective-of-fiberglass-boat-design-life.683703/

thanks!

 

[JASinIL2006]

Be sure to start a thread in the Restoration forum so we can see your progress! And pictures, lots of pictures!

 

[bethyoung]

Be sure to start a thread in the Restoration forum so we can see your progress! And pictures, lots of pictures!

Sounds great, I will thank you!