please help timing issue is the expected issue help!

spomey

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Turn key to start and hold, then with other hand move shifter slightly FWD/REV. If it cranks then is the neutral safety switch in the control

If not look for the slave relay on the motor next to the 50 amp breaker. The slave is what jumps the starter
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So I replaced the relay and the motor started OK! I started it two or maybe three times. Went back to it two days later the battery is completely dead so I charge the battery and I hit the key and nothing so I’m charging the battery, I will take the two wires And connect them and see if it starts then I’ll know it’s that relay. Do the relays come in sizes? I couldn’t find the exact relay the two large terminals were turned and 90° and the hole down bolt holes are closer together so I can only use one nut to hold it down, but there were no numbers or anything on either one of the relays. I got an automotive one and it was about $40. The dead battery has me confused Everything was off the throttle assembly when I had it apart there were two yellow and red wires that I had to disconnect reconnect them and they were polarize so you couldn’t install backwards. Is there a way too small wires to the back of the relay if they were hooked on opposite sides is there a way that I could drain your battery?

So, after all that questions are, do the relays come in different sizes? And cut the wires to the realize hooked up to the wrong terminals cause a battery drain
 

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Dead Bat might be your alternator has a short

Finding the Yel/Red wires tells me you found the correct relay. No way to mix the positions up, relay will work. Relays do come in different sizes but the slave relay pictured previous should all be the same
 

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Dead Bat might be your alternator has a short

Finding the Yel/Red wires tells me you found the correct relay. No way to mix the positions up, relay will work. Relays do come in different sizes but the slave relay pictured previous should all be the same
I got a slave relay like i mentioned its just very slighty different. Once the battery was charged no cranking. I will take the relay and test it, possibly i got a bad one.
 

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so frustrated I had the battery tested and it checked out good (its brand new) I get abosolutly no power to the boat at all except the remote trim on the transom....The 50 amp breaker (red button) doesnt move really or have a reset feeling it just moves a little bit. I swear I am electrically challenged...one one is one too many LOL. I think power should be to the 50 amp circut breaker to ground..I will look for 12v. I tried jumping accross the starter relay large post to large and got nothing. no instrumentation movement or anything. also no fuel pump noise...could the fuel pump be the culprit to all electrical? thank you again. is just seems like I am chasing gremlins.
 

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You need a voltmeter
Might be the 90 amp fuse on the starter post. Inside it is a fuse

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Alldodge, thenk you so much, I took the fuse out and it does not have connectivity, I am now trying to locate one. So I am fearful now, the starter relay went out. now the starter fuse. and a 90 amp at that.....any ideas as to the real issue? these seem like after effects of something. concerned here now! BTW.....I got in a hurry...didnt disconnect the battery.....I had my own fireworks show!!!
 

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Just guessing but you may have blown the fuse in post 18 when you mentioned jumping the solenoid. Said it was running after jumping
 

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OK so I got everything working and surprisingly I wind up selling that boat! Thank you so much for all of your help now I’m working on the boat I replaced it with is a 23 foot Chris craft 1999 vintage. It has the Volvo Penta with the Chevrolet 5.7 TVI engine when I go to set the timing long story short, I had to replace a head anyway when setting the timing you jump or two ports on an electrical plug that increases your engine rpm where should I set the timing too? Zero? Then when the pins are jumped, the idle has a slow variation from about 1350 RPM to 2000 RPM it’s a very continuous very rhythmic change in RPM. I would say once every 10 seconds. Is that normal? Could something be wrong?
 
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