oxidation

[c clark]

My first time posting. I have a 1999 bayliner capri cuddy w/ moderate oxidation. What is a good product to bring the finish back? boat is white and has never been compounded. I bought it new and waxed twice a year usually. Thanks in advance

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: oxidation

Welcome to iboats!

Hmmmmm never been compounded? Well it sounds like it is time.

You could try the 3m products too but it is all going to come down to cleaning and polishing with a decent variable speed polisher followed by a good wax.

 

[this forum wont let me]

Re: oxidation

well, here is my .02. I have waxed, compounded, just about set the boat on fire... lol, and have only been happy for a few weeks maybe a month after spending lots of time and love on my boat. I have recently used a product called Vert Glass and so far I am blown away with the results. It had me wondering how only a liquid product was going to do what I was told it would do. WOW, this product is great I have a 90 MAXUM I/O bowrider red and white the red was a fair color red with some white oxidation in it. Now, my boat looks like a newer boat as far as shine and the more layers you do the happier you will be they say, anywhere between 4-6 coats. I think I did around 8 or so, and worth every min I spent The kit is around $100. The kit comes with boat wash, oxidation remover, sealer, and sealer remover if you screw up. I am a professional detailer and let me just finish off by saying, if I am pleased I think most everybody will be happy with the outcome

 

[c clark]

Re: oxidation

thanks for the feed back. time to go to work.

 

[marine4003]

Re: oxidation

compound - 3M
polish - 3M
wax - Collinite

alot of hard work..the only way to have a long lasting,deep shine that protects the gelcoat , HARD WORK

 

[sea wolf]

Re: oxidation

My first time posting. I have a 1999 bayliner capri cuddy w/ moderate oxidation. What is a good product to bring the finish back? boat is white and has never been compounded. I bought it new and waxed twice a year usually. Thanks in advance

Vaseline. Worked in then wiped down. Followed by a good quality wax/polish. I've used the 3m products. Most are crap.

 

[MikDee]

Re: oxidation

Vaseline. Worked in then wiped down. Followed by a good quality wax/polish. I've used the 3m products. Most are crap.

Hey, didn't I suggest this a long time ago?

True, messy, But, your boat will look like new! let it sit in the sun, it'll get even better, then just wipe off the excess after awhile, you might have to do this a few times. Once it has absorbed, & is dry, use any kind of wax, or polish to preserve the color.

 

[Wassachu]

Re: oxidation

If it's been waxed twice a year it shouldn't need much work to bring it back but I recomend using a polish and not a wax. A good polish fills the pours in the gelcoat where a wax does not.

 

[gshldon]

Re: oxidation

Hello all,

I bought a 79 larson that was really heavy oxidized and with trying several products and alot of time with a buffer, i got it looking ok but not what i would like, i think it can look alot better, so i am wondering if vaseline really works to remove the oxidation?

 

[mmccoy555]

Re: oxidation

compound - 3M
polish - 3M
wax - Collinite

alot of hard work..the only way to have a long lasting,deep shine that protects the gelcoat , HARD WORK

That's the best combination I have found as well. That collinite in itself will do the job.

 

[MikDee]

Re: oxidation

Hello all,

I bought a 79 larson that was really heavy oxidized and with trying several products and alot of time with a buffer, i got it looking ok but not what i would like, i think it can look alot better, so i am wondering if vaseline really works to remove the oxidation?

Vaseline rubbed in a bit penetrates into the gelcoat, and will restore the original color if left on long enough. Along the way it will remove surface dirt, & blemishes, or sap, or tar. You may have to remove the excess over a few days, as it soaks in. Once the excess is removed, and it has penetrated completely, this may take a few days, you can wax or poilsh to preserve the look. This also works quite well on vinyl seats (my jetski seat,looks like new) a little goes a long way too, especially in the sun

 

[sea wolf]

Re: oxidation

Hey, didn't I suggest this a long time ago?

True, messy, But, your boat will look like new! let it sit in the sun, it'll get even better, then just wipe off the excess after awhile, you might have to do this a few times. Once it has absorbed, & is dry, use any kind of wax, or polish to preserve the color.

So your the guy! I know I read it somewhere here, but couldn't remember the poster. Well, I swear by your method. It worked great on my '87 Starcraft which had oxodied. Thanx for the tip.

 

[marine4003]

Re: oxidation

Vaseline rubbed in a bit penetrates into the gelcoat, and will restore the original color if left on long enough. Along the way it will remove surface dirt, & blemishes, or sap, or tar. You may have to remove the excess over a few days, as it soaks in. Once the excess is removed, and it has penetrated completely, this may take a few days, you can wax or poilsh to preserve the look. This also works quite well on vinyl seats (my jetski seat,looks like new) a little goes a long way too, especially in the sun

Yea, i remember that one too....sounds absurd..BUT,being i've never tried it..not gonna judge.
Its funny how folks bash 3M products,say there crap, perhaps they don't apply them correctly,we have 4 different boat detail company's here in the Myrtle Beach and surrounding community's, guess what...they ALL use 3M,and not on 20' Bayliners...but million dollar yachts & sportfishers...........

 

[MikDee]

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Hey, I'm a lazy, tired, aching, old guy I always need to find the easiest way to do things, vaseline is it Did you ever spill oil on your boat, and the dark spots are permanent, vaseline works the same way on every surface, like chrome, SS, and vinyl,,,, and lasts longer, plus surprisingly it lightly cleans. Also, if there already is a shine on the boat, it will enhance it, before you even polish it

Many yrs ago, I first tried it on a my fairly new 69' Dodge Chargers matching medium lime green vinyl top, and was amazed at how well it came out, and stood up in the weather! as I started I noticed some black tarry substance, large excess droplets from the factory used for waterproofing the glass, the vaseline dissolved them, and it took them right off, no muss/no fuss, leaving it like new!

 

[marine4003]

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MikDee..
Not judging or scoffing..just dont hear that method too often.It would be a great ad though, like WD-40 multi use promo, Vaseline!!! better than wax...every spring there sales would jump 40%!!

 

[MikDee]

Re: oxidation

MikDee..
Not judging or scoffing..just dont hear that method too often.It would be a great ad though, like WD-40 multi use promo, Vaseline!!! better than wax...every spring there sales would jump 40%!!

No, no, Not better then wax, but better then rubbing compound!
Consider it a revitalizing moistureizer for your boat, instead of a pumice stone.

As a teenager, I had a friend of mine put this on all his chrome, & nickel plated brass boating fixtures, to preserve them, it works! In later years his younger brother, being a car buff, used it on his blackwall tires, it works great.

 

[oops!]

Re: oxidation

you guys really try the farecla 300 and glaze.

it is made for gellcoat and makes 3m look like snake oil.....i polish and glaze older boats all the time and it turns a old oxidized peice of junk into a shiney new boat.

 

[MikDee]

Re: oxidation

you guys really try the farecla 300 and glaze.

it is made for gellcoat and makes 3m look like snake oil.....i polish and glaze older boats all the time and it turns a old oxidized peice of junk into a shiney new boat.

What is it oops!? Where do ya get it?

 

[oops!]

Re: oxidation

farecla is a gellcoat ploishing / cutting compound.

it is used by ALL of the manufacturers here, (campoin is the biggest)i havent seen a bottle of 3m on any of the shelves of any of the glass shops or manufacturers since i found the farecla brand.

they make a simelar type product for cars.....but the 200 and 300 are made for gellcoat in a marine application.

any marinne fiberglass/plastics shop will have it......(these are specialty shops....not your boat store.......(in canada its a shop where the pros get there supplies)

ill get a pic of the can and the glaze tonight.

the last full polish i did.......i took a 70 somthing hull.....acid washed it...(industrial stregnth toilet bowl cleaner).

then low speed with a foam bonnet, worked in the farecla 200 moving the bonnett semi fast, i worked it in in 5 foot sections.....wash the bonnett often.

then after it was worked in....i used the polishing pad......and at medium speed, buffed it......WOW.....

then the farecla glaze....(like a wax type product) and buffed that in.
it was like looking thru glass !

the owner just about fell over......total time .....3 hrs.

ill do my bay liner and post it as a project on the resto forum......the stuff is fantastic

 

[wca_tim]

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aquabuff 2000 and a high speed buffer do great if not too deep. if deeper, then go down in grit with wetdry sandpaper until you can get it off, do wht whole thing, work back up to 1200 then hit it with aquabuff (can porder it off the web).

after that finish up with finesse it 2 (3m) or a good machine glaze at high speed. wax and enjoy.

that has worked well for me. the aquabuff really cuts better than the 3m heavy duty compound with a high speed buffer and does a dynamite job on car headlingh lenses as well... (thanks whoever posted that - great tip!)