Old motors DEMAND to be retired when they are 65 years old..

[racerone]

Products today are " assembled " by corporations from parts made by vendors.----They are NOT parts made in house by a family run factory. !-----It is in fact easier to find parts ( at least in my area ) for older / simpler motors.-----But new products are for folks with lots of $$$ and no fear of a breakdown. -----Older products are for folks on a LOW $$$ budget but with HIGH time budget.----And the patience to learn how to repair simple stuff.-----Parts availability for new motors is not the same as it was in the 60's the 70's.

 

[racerone]

Products are made affordable by modern manufacturing / assembly methods.-----Not much point in making a quality product that few can afford to buy.-----Plastics are a major issue for this planet,----Simply because it is cheap / easy to use.

 

[rolmops]

There are a few more socioeconomic cause and result facts that I might mention , but I like this chatroom and do not want to get kicked off ,so Peace and steady waters to all of you. I'll stick to opinions about engines.

 

[rolmops]

One more thing.
If the original thread starter is a "force" owner, his argument might be more understandable and he can be forgiven.

 

[dingbat]

Interesting conversation given the well documented increase in the life expectancy and reliability of vehicles manufactured today

 

[Crosbyman]

remember th Pinto.. the Vega....and several others with rust perforations within 2 years... not anymore my grand son's kia Koop 2010 is like new and was never rust proofed for Canada's salty roads

anybody changed a muffler lately...!

 

[Scott Danforth]

anybody changed a muffler lately...!

Yes

 

[cyclops222]

Yawn

 

[Scott Danforth]

Yawn

You started this thread

 

[stresspoint]

2001 + stuff ,cars boats , motors whatever , its usually the electronics or wiring is what sends them to scrap piles to come back as kias or these days teaslers!.

 

[ct1762@gmail.com]

One more thing.
If the original thread starter is a "force" owner, his argument might be more understandable and he can be forgiven.

the later 1997-1999 Force motors were awesome. Ditto for most of the older Chrysler . Notice the demographic they were sold to though: mostly clueless new boat owners. any 2 stroke enthusiast can keep them running just as long as any other brand.

 

[JimS123]

remember th Pinto.. the Vega....and several others with rust perforations within 2 years... not anymore my grand son's kia Koop 2010 is like new and was never rust proofed for Canada's salty roads

anybody changed a muffler lately...!

Vega had an aluminum block engine. Back then they were not fully engineered yet.

One of the engineers that developed that engine was in one of my engineering classes (back in 1970 or 71 as I recall). We were both going for Masters.

The news proclaimed that the Vega was to be introduced next week. Just before class we met in the library and he said that all 4 test engines grenaded on the stands the night before. I asked if the introduction would be delayed. He said: "Yeah right".

 

[Chris1956]

If I remember correctly, the Vega cylinders were aluminum treated with silicon nitride. This made them very hard, but if the engine overheated the hardness was reduced and the cast iron rings would then wear down the cylinder walls. Later model Vega's had the iron duke engine to fix this issue.

 

[Scott Danforth]

it only took a weekend to pull the vega motor and install a Buick V6 or an SBC

 

[Crosbyman]

The Vega was quickly coined the "Déga" up here in Québec.

Transalation: Déga: total mess, a desaster, a pile of s...

ok back to OBs

 

[tphoyt]

I remember a lot of Vegas being turned into 1/4 mile cars in the 80’s. My buddy’s day was a huge fan of the AMC line up. In my eyes they were some of the ugliest car out there except for the Javelin of course. We drove around in a baby blue Pacer for some time and I remember feeling like everyone was looking at us at a stop light and laughing. Sorry for getting off topic.