Oil Didn't Mix with Fuel !!!

Aggiepup

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I'm a bit of a mechanic and have never experienced this. I have a Bayliner Trophy boat with a Force 125 motor. I have tinkered with it, but never had serious problems. I have been out several times this year and always used reputable oil brands and careful about the gas I used. The other day I was at the lake and almost out of fuel. Lake had not pumps, so loaded it up and went to closest town which had two gas stations. Went insid and they had two bottels of phillips 66 2 stroke outboard motor oil, and 1 bottle of penzoil 2 stroke. I grabbed all 3 as needed to fill up tank. All were TCW-3 rated. These bottles plus the 6 ounces left of oil i had from last fill up was enough to fill the tank which was almost dry. Went back to lake and ran fine to unload with gas left in carbs. We sat a while waiting for the rest of my group to get there. It started and would die when we gave it more throttle and smoked terribly. Played with floats in carbs etc. Nothing worked. Trailered the boat and thought the only thing to do was to empty gas tank and start over. When pumping gas out, it was dark red from oil, then quickly cleared up after pumping about 1 gallon out. It is undisputable in my mind that whatever oil i used had settled at the bottom of the tank and my motor was trying to burn highly concentrated oil to gas mixture. I did put in oil first, but should have diffused when gas went in and the 15 mile trip back to the lake. Has anyone ever experienced this. Even if I had used wrong oil, it would seem that any oil would be disolved in the gas. Ran fine after replacing 20 gallons of gas.
 

roscoe

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Re: Oil Didn't Mix with Fuel !!!

should not happen.

to be rated tcw3 it must mix with other brands of tcw3 oils

Were all the bottles sealed when you bought them?

One good thing, the oil sank/settled to the fuel pick up.
Better to pump oil into the carbs than straight gas, or you would have burned up the motor.
 

Aggiepup

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Re: Oil Didn't Mix with Fuel !!!

I agree... Of course I looked at the bottels closely at the time, but after the fact begin to doubt myself. The bottels were sealed, but even if it was straignt 30 weight motor oil or any oil for that matter, i would think it would have disbursed in gasoline. I have washed parts in gasoline my whole life and gas always cuts oil. Problem is corrected, but I am just puzzeled by the whole event. It really screwed up my weekend. It really idled smoothly with all that oil but was a smokin people out at the beach.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Oil Didn't Mix with Fuel !!!

Don't know about Phillips, but isn't Pennzoil green or blue? Red is usually the color reserved for ATF. I suggest that you return the bottles if you still have them and have the company analyze them. I suspect that you put something other than TCW-3 in your tank, no matter what the bottles said.
 

Aggiepup

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Re: Oil Didn't Mix with Fuel !!!

The penzoil was blue, but the Phillips was red. I suppose it is possible, that I grabbed the wrong stuff. My brother was with me and he initially found the oil. I could have gotton distracted, but thought I double checked it. Even if it were ATF, I would think it would be disolved by oil. I suppose that disolve and Dilute to become a homogenous mixture are two different concepts. Perhaps this was best that it worked this way. If i had the wrong oil in there I would have not known it if it had diluted completely with the gas. And the right Octane would have made the engine run fine initially and crater somewhere down the lake. I guess God was looking out for me once again. I don't understand people who criticize the Force engines. Everytime, mine gives me any trouble it's due to me being stupid. The thing runs like a champ and the 125 horsepower can get my heavy fishing boat to about 43 miles per hour. I had it way over loaded with probably 300 lbs of fishing gear and 600 lbs of person and still went 40.
 
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