New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

[surftodd]

Does anyone know of any law about bottom painting your own boat? I just talked to some people that said the DEC can fine you up to $10,000 if you are caught bottom painting without a special license. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, where can I get more info on it?? Thanks!!

 

[Reel Appeal]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

surftodd,<br /> I have not heard of any such law,although this law would not surprise me.Think about this though.The Marine stores sell you the paint.Do they ask for your painting license?.I believe what you heard refers to professionals(such as Marina's/contractors)who paint boat bottoms regularly as a business.If you are painting a boat(other than your own) and getting paid is another story.There are many types of paint that must be "professionally applied".If you ask a Marina they would probably agree with the law(cause they want your business),if you asked,say West Marine for example,they would most likely say "No"(they see a sale$). <br />I paint my bottom in my own yard with a tarp under me and the boat(No contamination).I beleive you WILL be in trouble if you are seen painting where NO effort has been made to "catch the mess".I have heard that Marina's and boat yards will not let you do work like that while your boat is on thier property.Possibly for fines or liability reasons.I'm gonna ask around.Hate the thought I,ve been painting illegally.<br />It is usually up to the DEC officer on how he/she see's things....They have full legal decision on what's legal or not.Example:Lets say painting your boat is totally legal.The officer see's paint run-off on the street.Get out your checkbook.

 

[Reel Appeal]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

This is directly from the NYSDEC website.....<br />Boat Owners<br />Antifouling paints are registered pesticides for use on vessel hulls and other structures to inhibit the growth of aquatic organisms such as barnacles and algae.<br /><br />Antifouling paints are further categorized as Restricted Use or Unclassified pesticides. Restricted Use antifouling paints contain ingredients such as tributyltin (TBT) and can only be purchased and applied by Commercial Pesticide Applicators or a trained marina employee working under their direct supervision. Unclassified antifouling paints contain ingredients such as copper and can be purchased by the general public. Although not as toxic as those containing TBT, copper-based paints still can harm non-target aquatic species. Strict adherence to label directions and marina restrictions while applying these pesticides will greatly reduce such risks.<br /><br />Boat owners who are not certified as a Commercial Pesticide Applicator in the subcategory 5D - Aquatic Antifouling Paints may only paint their boat using antifouling paints if all three of the following conditions are met:<br /><br />the applicator uses antifouling paints that are unclassified pesticides; <br />the applicator personally owns or leases the boat being painted; and <br />the boat is drydocked on property personally owned or leased by the applicator. <br />Boat owners must discuss applying antifouling paints to their boat, on marina property, with the marina owner before they begin painting. Boat owners must lease a specific area from the marina owner that is designated for applying antifouling paint to prevent contamination to the surrounding aquatic environment.<br /><br />For additional information on pollution prevention please visit the Pollution Prevention website at www.dec.state.ny.us/website/ppu/index.html SO,In general,as long as the paint does not contain TBT,you own the boat being painted and it's on your property,your OK

 

[mellowyellow]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

all good info... the paints in question were<br />oulawed and haven't been for sale for many years.<br />the stuff currently sold is fine.<br />good luck,<br />M.Y.

 

[surftodd]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

This makes a little better sense now. I agree with the idea of the two different companies have different advice depending on which they provide /sell. Thank you for the DEC report. That puts my mind at ease and I will be ready to bottom paint hopefully sometime next week. Thanks again to all that replied.

 

[surftodd]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

Hey Reel Appeal, You live right around the corner from me!!! I was actually concerned about the DEC guy on Accabonac passing my house and fining me.... laws the law and I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to break it. Any idea of open dock slips in the area that are affordable for a local out here? I am on the fifteen year list with the town and would love to stay dry once and a while when going out fishing.Take care.

 

[Reel Appeal]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

surftodd,<br /> There is a small marina called "Sunset Cove Marina"(kinda semi-private).Should be in telephone book.They handle boats usually up to 25' or so.If your boat draws more than 2.5',forget it.Low(moon) tide problems there.Their slips are priced according to the slip you get and boat size.They have floating docks and hard docks,power,water.Close to Gardiners Bay.Next closest is Harbor Marina(not cheap,but close to bay,all amenities )<br />Also,there is Gardiners Marina at the head of 3 Mile and Three Mile Harbor Boat yard may have slips.East Hampton Marina is also good place to keep a "trailer" boat.Not sure on the rates.<br />Don't forget to tarp under the boat!

 

[surftodd]

Re: New York State BOTTOM PAINTING LAWS?

Thanks... I will try sunset cove...

 

[ratherbefishin]

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This problem was addressed by Canoe Cove Marina on the west Coast.That was where the waterbased paint strippers were developed, to strip anti fouling paint.Check out www.napierenvironmental.com ICI markets it under the ''HydroStrip label works on two part epoxies, too.Water based, non toxic, no fumes and doesn't burn your hands.Spray it on, leave it over night and power wash off.