NEW WORLD ORDER

oddjob

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Ya know, I always wonder about the "NEW WORLD ORDER" term. The agenda, goals, its members?....... I've never researched my suspicions. Can anyone here help me with an opinon?
 

LadyFish

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A HISTORY OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER<br /><br />by David Allen Rivera<br /><br />Since the Persian Gulf War, the term "New World Order" has become well known. However, there has never really been an explanation as to what the term meant, only that it represented a new spirit of cooperation among the nations of the world in order to further the cause of peace. And peace is good, so therefore the New World Order is good and should be accepted. Not so fast. Like the old saying, you can't tell a book by its cover, there is more here than meets the eye.<br /><br />The term "New World Order" was actually first used many years ago. Adolf Hitler said: "National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishing of 'a new world order'." The Associated Press reported that on July 26, 1968, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller said in a speech to the International Platform Association at the Sheraton Park Hotel in New York, that "as President he would work toward international creation of a New World Order."<br /><br />Edward VIII became King of England on January 20, 1936, but he was forced to abdicate the throne eleven months later, when he married a commoner. He became the Duke of Windsor, and in July, 1940, became the governor of the Bahamas. He is on record as saying: "Whatever happens, whatever the outcome, a New Order is going to come into the world...It will be buttressed with police power...When peace comes this time there is going to be a New Order of social justice. It cannot be another Versailles."<br /><br /> Hisoty of the New World Order
 

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LadyFish<br />I was just on line with a friend trying to find<br />that! :) <br /><br />Now a sub topic.. wasn't good ole Teddy R for<br />a one world goverment when the UN was established<br />??? I could be wrong here which is why I asked??<br /><br />Thanks Link
 

SoulWinner

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You might also look into the Illuminati, the Bonesmen and the Builderburgers, if your into that kind of thing :rolleyes:
 

kd6nem

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Interesting subject. Sometimes hard to get the straight skinny when there are so many OPINIONS running around. Uncovering the true facts can be difficult because this movement is very deliberately underground. I'll be careful to say that most of my comments are just my OPINION, so please take it as such. True? I believe so, very much I do. But I also think that there is quite a bit of hyperbole and finding things simply because some are trying too hard to find stuff. The big picture is sinister enough, I think it ties into biblical prophecy ultimately, though not explicitly so. Just seems to be moving the same direction. I can't really comment on Ladyfish's quote of Rivera because I haven't really studied all the specifics there. Probably some good stuff there, though I get a little suspicious of too much detail. Been burned too many times by well meaning folks who pass on rumors. (NOT directed toward Ladyfish! The link IS helpful, though I'll take it with a grain of salt until I can authenticate its statements. I try to check out stuff BEFORE I decide it must be true- like I say,I've been burned too many times) Not that it is necessarily wrong or overstated, but the nature of this sort of thing is to try to implicate the target any which way, by association, rumor, hear-say, etc. Ends up just discrediting that which really is legitimate- too hard to sift between truth and fiction. Usually causes folks to turn off to the reality that really does lay there under the surface. (Chicken Little syndrome) The folks whose passion leads them to uncover the "vast conspiricy" under every rock and whose enthusiasm is so unbridled as to contaminate their product do us a grave disservice. If it was approached with the due caution of a good detective or forensics specialist who uses extreme care to not contaminate their observations and findings, and whose report was limited to "just the facts", then we might have more confidence in the reports. (Those reports might not sell as well in the bookstores, though!) And genuine first or second hand reports hold far more credibility than 7th or 8th hand reports.<br /><br />As to Theodore Roosevelt, I most strongly think that to be nonsense. I have done some study of his life, and have indeed found much to have been left out by the revisionist historians who have their own agenda. Truth is he was what we today would call a conservative evangelical christian who used the Scriptures to the very best of his ability to rule every aspect of his life. His values which lead to the great conservation works he did were simply biblical stewardship. The modern conservation movement has nothing on TR, except lack of perspective, ruthless tactics, crybaby attitude, and lack of just about every virtue that he did possess. Yes, he loved to hunt and fish, but he desired balance, and had vision years ahead of his time which gained him criticism. He wanted to preserve the wild species, not destroy them. He was no hypocrite, unlike the vocal extremists usually trying to get all the media attention. And he accomplished far more towards the cause than the micro-managing self important wackos on the outer fringe ever will. (Not all conservation minded people are extreme!) In many other areas his desire to be godly also ruled him. I just can't imagine him ever yielding to any conterfeit man-made poor imitation when he knew the REAL Prince of Peace. Rest assured, any peace on this planet that comes apart from Christ will not last, and will indeed be leading to a swift destruction in the end. John:14:6,27; 1Thessalonians 5:1-4 <br />A lot of bad things are done in the name of good causes, unfortunately. But there is never a substitute for the real, genuine thing. Just is hard for some folks to find because they keep looking in all the wrong places. I know, I was once there myself.
 

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Thanks for an interesting thread -- great post Bearcat.
 

Skinnywater

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I'll ditto that aspeck. <br />I'm looking forward to more from Bearcat.
 

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If you Dont what to hear the answer DONT ask<br />the question!<br />Which is why I asked and thanks for the replies<br /><br />To: SW and BC:<br />In the early spring of 2003 We saw a special on<br />our local PBS a two hour special on Teddy R! They<br />said not once or twice but several times that<br />Teddy R was for a one world Goverment! And then <br />tied him in with the UN! I thought this was nuts..<br />But not being A HISTORIAN.. (SP) I looked into it.<br />But everything I found was the same as Bearcat!<br /> :confused: <br /><br />Soul Winner:<br />Of the three I've heard of the Bonesmen and the<br />person being interviewed I think also would think<br />the TV series X Files was real too :) <br /><br />Bearcat:<br />"I have done some study of his life, and have indeed found much to have been left out by the revisionist historians who have their own agenda."<br /> Ya think???<br />Yes I've looked also.. and I think he was was a<br />stand up type of guy! <br />Link<br />Buts thars just me...
 

Carphunter

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I thought the NWO was some sort of group of wrestlers. Shows ya what I know. :eek:
 

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I heard a lot about "NEW WORLD ORDER" from my mother, when I was very young. From what I remember, it can be condensed into a clandestine, bad thing.<br />She was also a memeber of the John Birch Society---Another of those "mysterious organizations", which those outside of, cloak the obvious truth, and remove the org from the 'light of day' (for lack of a better term).<br />My mother never hid her associations, and spoke openly about all things political. I remeber nieghbors who shunned her because of her views, and she handled in the same way as Regan handled criticism---same gestures, same "well", with a quick shake of the head.<br />We all form our beliefs around the beliefs of those around us that we trust.No two are the same, but are more of a collage' of belief, formed by many opinions.<br />So these days, when I hear "NEW WORLD ORDER", I automaticly think, "Not good". But I have no clue left, as to what or why, other than it scared mom.<br />Thanks for posting this thread, Ladyfish. Perhaps we can get "Just the facts", as Bearcat Powered stated.<br />And then, mybee we can get something going on the facts behind "Builderburgers" , "The Rockifellers", and the United Nations (some of Mom's other "four-letter" Irish words), and the links between the UN and these secret societies.<br />I sure wonder what Mom was talking about sometimes. But then, she raised me to think for myself, and not allow myself to ever be "programmed like one of those ENIAC machines".<br />I was very young then, and was more interested in frogs and go carts. I sure miss her, and wish I had paid more attention to the things that mattered to HER, instead of me.
 

SoulWinner

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12Footer,<br /><br />The Illuminati, Builderburgers, et.al. are like nuclear war. I researched them and consider them something that I could be concerned about, or even fear; however, since their isn't a dad blamed thing I can do about them (as with nuclear war) I decided to forget about it and focus more on stuff like reading my Bible, Family and FISHING :D It's real interesting stuff though, much like UFO's, the information available is generously intersperced with all sorts of wild and fantastic stories. Entertaining reading. I'll say this in light of everything I've read about these secret societies: Either there are number of VERY powerful secret organizations working against eachother for radically different purposes, or (based on what I see going on in the world today), they are run by complete incompetents :D I mean, come on.....if the folks on iBoats had the power purportedly wielded by these organizations, wouldn't the world be better place?? :D :D :D <br /><br />One interesting point to make is that of all the secret societies operating in the industrialsized world, all have ancient ties to Germany (Builders, Illum., Bones.,) as does the British Monarchy. Just one of those odd coincidences one picks up on when reading too much of the wrong material to spend that much time reading :D
 
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