new too me "boat" 87 wellcraft 200 needs some help

[deepcreek]

picked this boat up its in decent shape needs the floor replaced the guy replaced it up front he just put new ply wood down over the old and cut out the floor storage, is this a big job on one of these or is is just taking the seats out and then pulling the floor up and replacing it and anyone have any input on these boats or have any pictures? thanks guys in advance

 

[deepcreek]

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[jbcurt00]

It isnt really built any different then your Sea Star was.

Did you replace the deck(floor) in it?

There is likely a lot of work ahead. In addition the deck, you'll need to core sample the stringers and transom. Which will be after the seats and deck come out.

 

[deepcreek]

Transom is ok. It has a new outdrive, and stringers I'm gonna say are good also the floor is mostly fine in the back, just couple soft spots up front

 

[jbcurt00]

Transom is ok. It has a new outdrive, and stringers I'm gonna say are good also the floor is mostly fine in the back, just couple soft spots up front

I'm gonna say you're much more likely to be wrong then right about the stringers

The deck in the back is mostly fine?

A new outdrive doesnt mean fransom is ok

Look thru some of the topics in the resto forum I've moved this to. Lots of isolated small soft spots that end up full guts.

Didnt answer the question about the SeaStar.

You will also probably find water logged foam below decks that may be 'helping' to give you the wrong impression that the deck is in better shape then it really is.

Good luck w your project, boat and boat rehab safely

 

[Scott Danforth]

The last thing to rot is the floor. I will guarantee the stringers and transom are wet or rotten. Start saving cash for a full restoration

 

[Woodonglass]

Did the PO replace the Transom when he replaced the Outdrive? Without sampling the stringers and motor mounts there's no SURE way to know their actual condition. Overlaying a wet/rotting deck is asking for trouble. If you have soft spots more than likely you'll have issues below. Pretty sure you'll have some waterlogged foam that will be adding several hundred lbs of additional weight to the boat. You'd do well to listen to the SAGE ADVICE being given here by the experienced members and do some thorough investigating on this boat before throwing good money after bad.:wink::sad:

 

[saginawbayboater]

deepcreek I agree with everyone here. You need to do core samples in the transom and stingers. But if you find more rot in the core samples then there is a fork in the road. Either go all in and pull out the floor in an exploratory mission and fix it right, or sell it. If it needs transom, stringers, foam, it is a very big undertaking.
If you like projects this looks like a good one. If you want to go boating and not mess around with the fiberglass maybe not so good.

What engine and outdrive are in it, and are they in good shape? If the boat was in cold climates check for cracked block, exhaust risers, ect...? Did you drop the oil in the engine and outdrive and what do they look like? Do the fluids look normal with no water or metal shavings or anything out of the ordinary? Does the engine run? Making sure you have an operational engine and outdrive is as important as core sampling!

Good Luck!! :thumb:

 

[deepcreek]

I'm not sure about replacing the transom I know the motor mounts are good already checked them. And everything in back of boat seems dry. And motor and outdrive run great! It fires right up! Anyone have some links or pics of checking these stringers and the sea ray I ended up selling. So this will be a first, all the fluids look good and block is fine we took it for a test run boat runs roughly 48-50 on water gps. I just traded a bike for it I didn't think it would be a huge job to fix it I'm mechanically inclined but how can I check the transom that's the biggest thing I'm worried about but like I said everything seems dry in the back. If transom a bad the boat will be going down the road. Thanks guys greatly appreciated

 

[Scott Danforth]

you drill holes into the stringers, about an inch from the bottom. once thru the fiberglass, and into the wood, you look at the wood shavings. if the wood shavings are light colored and dry, you are good to go. if the wood shavings are dark and wet, you have issues.

same test drills into transom, motor mounting block, etc. usually 6" apart.

if all is good, fill the holes with some marine tex epoxy or 3M 5200 and your good to go.

if the holes produced wet shavings (or in some cases, water starts pouring out), then you have a restoration project.

 

[deepcreek]

Sounds good thank you

 

[jbcurt00]

A 1/4 or 3/8" bit is plenty big enough.

You need to be sure you dont drill all the way thru the transom, only 12/way +/-.

 

[deepcreek]

Ok another question for you guys, either way I think I'm gonna fix it, is their any threads about these boats? And secondly has anyone ever put a wake tower on one?

 

[Scott Danforth]

Ok another question for you guys, either way I think I'm gonna fix it, is their any threads about these boats? And secondly has anyone ever put a wake tower on one?

By these boats, do you mean boats bought with soft floors and have to have a full restoration when the owner finds the rot - then yes, the restoration forum is full of them. Or do you mean a wellcraft 200

see the stickies http://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...r/295740-how-to-s-and-other-great-information specifically read #14 (Frisco's Searay rebuild)

you can put a wake tower on many boats. I personally wont, however that is me.

 

[wellcraft-classic210]

I had a similar wellcraft boat years back ( as in be careful; what name you pick for this forum --( My choice at the time was sort of like getting a tatoo of my current girlfriend )




I fixed some rotted wood on the deck & 1 stringer to get it going -- I am sure it had wet foam and more rot but I never got around to a rebuild. It sat a little low in the back when I tried to get on plane -- I did notice a seam in the deck near the back where 2 panels had been join together at the factory using corrugated fasteners -- this allowed water to enter and started the rot. Other than that the boat was very well made. Nice lines too.



I have also added a wake tower to my second mistress which was an 18 foot sea ray. I took my time and double checked before drilling any holes.

I liked having the tower but wish I had found a unit/design that would not loosen with use. The instructions said to pull the 2 sides into the center pipe and bolt it but I found that made the center windshield bind. The bolts tended to loosen up on this on regardless of the various thread lockers ( locktite(s)) I tried // Is seemed to have been aggravated by boat & resulting joint movement / I assume the better ones have less issues like that.